COVID-19 - On the Ground

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So Operation Warpspeed is what you take issue with?
Huh. I thought that was a good thing that Trump did.
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StayCurious wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:04 pm 30 years isn't all that long in the big picture, and this is the first they ever tested it on a large subject group.
JFC.
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Mjl wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:36 pm So Operation Warpspeed is what you take issue with?
Huh. I thought that was a good thing that Trump did.
Did you miss the Space Force drop?
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Hey, this just in:
Psych has no love for the 1,000s of pigs….10s of thousands of monkeys…and about a million fruit flies that gave their short…..painful lives so that is humans could get ahead of hundreds of afflictions
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Mjl wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:36 pm So Operation Warpspeed is what you take issue with?
Huh. I thought that was a good thing that Trump did.
Who said I liked what Trump did?

I do find it interesting that when Trump was talking about the vaccine, democrats were saying things like "would you trust it if Trump is telling you to?" Oh how things completely did a 180 just because Biden was in office.
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StayCurious wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:33 pm
Mjl wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:36 pm So Operation Warpspeed is what you take issue with?
Huh. I thought that was a good thing that Trump did.
Who said I liked what Trump did?

I do find it interesting that when Trump was talking about the vaccine, democrats were saying things like "would you trust it if Trump is telling you to?" Oh how things completely did a 180 just because Biden was in office.
Because people don't trust politicians on medical matters, they trust doctors.

It seems like your issue is the vaccine being rushed. It went through all the stages of testing. The difference here is the government would back any losses if the trials failed, so they could start producing (not administering) the vaccines en masse while the trials were ongoing.
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StayCurious wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:04 pm 30 years isn't all that long in the big picture, and this is the first they ever tested it on a large subject group.
Then you must be against any patented drug because at best (from the not-company perspective) they are 5-8 years from entering human trials. At most any innovator drug was tested on a few thousand people; typically under a thousand in a “sizable trial”. I know this because I’ve been paying my bills and putting food on the table for the last quarter century by supplying drugs for clinical trials.

By your standards you’ll never take a drug unless it’s off patent? Even then you may never meet the 30 year/tens of thousands patients metric. Monoclonal antibodies (mabs) have only been available widely for less than 30 years. Don’t see any MAGAGA objecting to these. In fact Der Cheeto Fuhrer himself would have died had it not been for the use of a Regeneron mab - the company is not 30 years old.
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@mjl, When you have a month to do an essay and you do it one night, is it going to turn out well? Of course rushing was a major problem. Nothing in medicine turns out well when it is rushed. It was rushed simply because there was panic and they knew they would make billions (and did).

I'm not on any drugs and avoid them unless it's absolutely necessary. Some drugs are well known as being highly safe, but many newer ones are later recalled when they find out they are causing serious side effects or death. As someone who grew up around health professionals, they always told me to avoid drugs as much as you can because they always screw up some other organ in your body, then you need another one.
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zsn wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:33 pm
StayCurious wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:04 pm 30 years isn't all that long in the big picture, and this is the first they ever tested it on a large subject group.
Then you must be against any patented drug because at best (from the not-company perspective) they are 5-8 years from entering human trials. At most any innovator drug was tested on a few thousand people; typically under a thousand in a “sizable trial”. I know this because I’ve been paying my bills and putting food on the table for the last quarter century by supplying drugs for clinical trials.

By your standards you’ll never take a drug unless it’s off patent? Even then you may never meet the 30 year/tens of thousands patients metric. Monoclonal antibodies (mabs) have only been available widely for less than 30 years. Don’t see any MAGAGA objecting to these. In fact Der Cheeto Fuhrer himself would have died had it not been for the use of a Regeneron mab - the company is not 30 years old.
Great post. Wasted on a deaf audience, but still great.
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StayCurious wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:54 pm

I'm not on any drugs
be a lot cooler if you were
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StayCurious wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:04 pm For Randy and any others...



"Explosive Video of Fauci, HHS in 2019 Plotting “Disruptive” New Outbreak in “China Somewhere” to “Blow the System Up” and Enforce Universal mRNA Vaccination"

Video is on the link (it's only about 2 minutes long)
https://newsrescue.com/explosive-video- ... ccination/
Finally got around to watching this.... so this interview happened right before covid?? Lol.

Then faucci unleashed covid19 on the world. As his ultimate science experiment. So he could test mrna vaccines on a massive scale.

IF that is what happened this dude deserves to rot in jail. Then burn in hell
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Mjl wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 4:34 pm
DrPepper wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:58 pm Do you know how many people in the world get struck by lightning on a given day? There are a shit ton of people on the Earth. So many it made the news this week. Something as "rare" as getting struck by lightning. But it happens.


>650 per day.
240,000 per year
So you're saying my chances of winning the lottery are better than I previously thought...
Youre chances of winning the lottery are jack fucking shit. But the chances of someone winning the lottery are really really good
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randylahey wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:09 pm

Finally got around to watching this.... so this interview happened right before covid?? Lol.

Then faucci unleashed covid19 on the world. As his ultimate science experiment. So he could test mrna vaccines on a massive scale.

IF that is what happened this dude deserves to rot in jail. Then burn in hell
I mean, that's how it appears to be. They are pretty much explaining what the plan was. But the problem is, he's so well protected. I doubt anyone else in this country is more protected, except for maybe Biden. We already know that Biden's family could be the most corrupt and nothing is being done about it. They will probably release the truth in 10-20 years after Fauci has passed.
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“Then faucci unleashed covid19 on the world. As his ultimate science experiment. So he could test mrna vaccines on a massive scale.”

Incredible.
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pdub wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:18 pm “Then faucci unleashed covid19 on the world. As his ultimate science experiment. So he could test mrna vaccines on a massive scale.”

Incredible.
You left out the part where I said IF in all capitals. Very selective quoting. And obviously its more likely faucci just used covid19 as his convenient chance to test the mrna vaccines on a large scale.

But come on. All this happening immediately after that conversation he had? Biggest coincidence of all time i guess
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In fact. There are more coincidences surrounding covid19 then probably anything we've ever encountered in our lifetimes
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More than for Putin helping Trump becoming President?
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The Covid related outbreak was predicted for over 20 years.

One of the reasons why research in labs has been ongoing for a couple of decades.

JFC, you little Nancy bitches are un-fucking real

You think this is bad, just wait until million year old bacteria and viruses are brought into our environment from melting ice
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randylahey wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 6:21 pm
pdub wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:18 pm “Then faucci unleashed covid19 on the world. As his ultimate science experiment. So he could test mrna vaccines on a massive scale.”

Incredible.
You left out the part where I said IF in all capitals. Very selective quoting. And obviously its more likely faucci just used covid19 as his convenient chance to test the mrna vaccines on a large scale.

But come on. All this happening immediately after that conversation he had? Biggest coincidence of all time i guess
I'm 100% serious when I say I will donate $20 to the charity of your choice if you throughly share your thoughts and opinions regarding the "coincidences" involving 9/11, the JFK assassination, Obamas birth certificate, the first moon landing, Roswell, the Holocaust, Sandy Hook, AIDS, and whatever else you feel there are "coincidences" regarding.
If you do, I admit I am wondering if after I read what you say, will I respond with a word or two or if I will respond to each individual thought and opinion you share.
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RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:07 am
randylahey wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 6:21 pm
pdub wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:18 pm “Then faucci unleashed covid19 on the world. As his ultimate science experiment. So he could test mrna vaccines on a massive scale.”

Incredible.
You left out the part where I said IF in all capitals. Very selective quoting. And obviously its more likely faucci just used covid19 as his convenient chance to test the mrna vaccines on a large scale.

But come on. All this happening immediately after that conversation he had? Biggest coincidence of all time i guess
I'm 100% serious when I say I will donate $20 to the charity of your choice if you throughly share your thoughts and opinions regarding the "coincidences" involving 9/11, the JFK assassination, Obamas birth certificate, the first moon landing, Roswell, the Holocaust, Sandy Hook, AIDS, and whatever else you feel there are "coincidences" regarding.
If you do, I admit I am wondering if after I read what you say, will I respond with a word or two or if I will respond to each individual thought and opinion you share.
My worthless opinions:
Obama birth certificate? That one was political fodder. Nothing there
Aids im going to dismiss too. Never looked much into it. It is odd that really rich people like magic Johnson are fine but others die
The holocaust was fucked up theres no conspiracy
Sandy hook was tragic. Hopefully no conspiracy there. Kids died.. better not have just been for a political agenda. But Kids dying for no reason is still fucked up
The first moon landing feels like it probably happened. Not calling conspiracy there either

So probably disappointing but over half of those im dismissing as "not conspiracies"

Alright here's where things get interesting:
So jfk shooting was before my time and I havent read into it much. But it clearly seems like there's a conspiracy there. Supposedly the shooter was never identified and people have proposed our own government did it? The cia or something? Ill admit there's something off about everything. But no personal strong beliefs

Roswell. Lol. Idk. I think its likely aliens exist somewhere in this massive massive universe. Do we have bodies recovered from a crash? Probably not. But who knows. Feels odd for there to be so much reported on it for it to be completely made up. Former government employees have come out in old age and "confessed" its all true. Id have to see it to beleive it on that one tho

Ok. 9/11. Hold my beer. That's where a lot of us see shady coincidences. Nobody benefited more from 9/11 than the US government. The patriot act (the least patriotic thing written into law) is still effect to this day. And the first thing we did was send our troops to the Middle East and secure a bunch of oil fields. There was also a lot of reports that didn't add up. You can dive deep down the rabbit hole trying to investigate all that. Did our government have involvement in it? I really hope not. Did they know it was going to happen and allow it anyways? Seems likely. Did they exploit the fuck out of that situation? 110%

Curious your thoughts on those too. And if you wanna donate to a charity do the nature conservacy
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