COVID-19 - On the Ground

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Just shows you that locking down in China was a huge mistake. Should have just let things play out from the beginning. You cannot escape nature.
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twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:25 pm What is it that you think this video is proving
Basically, it's proving that even those who signed up for 3 shots (like Campbell did) are now recognizing that the shots were a huge scam or at least, do nothing to help with the pandemic. Campbell was originally encouraging the shots, but since now there's a huge increase in deaths in young adults since 2021, he can read the writing on the wall. Campbell was fooled, but at least he recognizes it now.
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StayCurious wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:40 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:25 pm What is it that you think this video is proving
Basically, it's proving that even those who signed up for 3 shots (like Campbell did) are now recognizing that the shots were a huge scam or at least, do nothing to help with the pandemic. Campbell was originally encouraging the shots, but since now there's a huge increase in deaths in young adults since 2021, he can read the writing on the wall. Campbell was fooled, but at least he recognizes it now.
Nothing he said even remotely resembles what you just wrote.
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StayCurious wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:37 pm Just shows you that locking down in China was a huge mistake. Should have just let things play out from the beginning. You cannot escape nature.
Yet another poorly executed plan by Trump.
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StayCurious wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:40 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:25 pm What is it that you think this video is proving
Basically, it's proving that even those who signed up for 3 shots (like Campbell did) are now recognizing that the shots were a huge scam or at least, do nothing to help with the pandemic. Campbell was originally encouraging the shots, but since now there's a huge increase in deaths in young adults since 2021, he can read the writing on the wall. Campbell was fooled, but at least he recognizes it now.
Source? I couldn't find anything to corroborate that
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OK we've now heard from youtube. Lobster wins.
Defense. Rebounds.
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randylahey wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:29 pm
I don't think you understand China.
They currently don't have mRNA vaccines. Their people want them. The Chinese government isn't buying them.
If you think the US government controls scientific experiments... See first statement.
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Also, a Japanese group said the opposite.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanw ... 9/fulltext
In summary, we report that 3 × BNT and 3 × CorV provided better protection against SARS-CoV-2 BA.2 than 2 × BNT and 2 × CorV. High frequencies of S-specific activated memory B cells and cross-reactive T cell responses induced by the timely third vaccination are critical for BA.2 prevention and illness reduction during the Omicron BA.2 breakthrough infection. Enhanced NAbs boosted by the BA.2 breakthrough infection or the fourth vaccination may help to reduce the risk of infection against ongoing BA.2.12.1 and BA.4/5.
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StayCurious wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:40 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:25 pm What is it that you think this video is proving
Basically, it's proving that even those who signed up for 3 shots (like Campbell did) are now recognizing that the shots were a huge scam or at least, do nothing to help with the pandemic. Campbell was originally encouraging the shots, but since now there's a huge increase in deaths in young adults since 2021, he can read the writing on the wall. Campbell was fooled, but at least he recognizes it now.
I went back and watched the video again and took some notes. He literally said none of the things that you claimed. All he said was that the "mass vaccine rollout programs" should be paused while they do studies on the current state of things now that so many people have already been infected with covid and the number of people who are being hospitalized is continually declining. I don't know what "mass vaccine rollouts" he is referring to since the vaccine is simply something that is available IF someone wants to get it. Personally, I feel that the high volume of people aged 12+ in the UK that have been vaccinated, along with the high percentage of people who weren't killed by covid but have been infected is what is responsible for the continued decrease of hospitalizations, which is exactly what was explained as the goal when the vaccines were first rolled out.

He states that the combination means that there is much less of a risk of infection now than when the vaccines were first rolled out, which I also agree with. He also asked that the current method of intramuscular injections of mRNA vaccines be paused while they review whether it is the best method of providing an mRNA vaccine.

He said NOTHING about the shots being scams. He said NOTHING about them not having helped the pandemic. He said NOTHING about an increase in deaths among young adults. Every single portion of your statement was deliberately dishonest, which is odd coming from someone who claims to be all about the truth.

Ever notice that the more people claim to be truthful, the less truthful they turn out to be?
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randylahey wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:29 pm
You have claimed repeatedly here that China is not to be trusted. Then they generate something you think aligns with your world view and then suddenly you believe them without a moment's hesitation. Interesting.
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Mjl wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:24 pm I don't think you understand China.
They currently don't have mRNA vaccines. Their people want them. The Chinese government isn't buying them.
If you think the US government controls scientific experiments... See first statement.
Not really... most Chinese do not want American vaccines. They are generally a very brainwashed society in that they only follow their own government. Their government is not likely to encourage it, because they don't like American technology. They have also taken note that our vaccines do not work (and come with serious risks).
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twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:34 pm
He said NOTHIN...
You have to watch some more of his videos and read between the lines. He cannot say exactly what he implies because he has said many times that Youtube will delete his channel if he does.
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Read between the lines.
Lol.
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pdub wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:04 pm Read between the lines.
Lol.
Was that a goal post that just flew past Lobster?
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Says it all at 14:21

"There's 363,000 more (deaths) than at the start of the pandemic. This is a BIG increase. Now you would think the Office of National Statistics would go through quite a few possibilities for this. Unfortunately, they don't. All they said is, 'NHS waiting times' as the main factor. Is this a factor? Yes, of course it is. Are there other factors? I strongly suspect so, but the Office of National Statistics does not discuss them, nor are they being debated on mainstream media to any degree at all, which is surprising."


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StayCurious wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:59 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:34 pm
He said NOTHIN...
You have to watch some more of his videos and read between the lines. He cannot say exactly what he implies because he has said many times that Youtube will delete his channel if he does.
How convenient and absurd.
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randylahey wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:59 pm You can't be serious about viewing faucci as a hero right. You are familiar with all the shady shit surrounding him, funding to labs, covid itself, and the endless streams of lies stemming from that to cover his ass right. Faucci will see his day in court. It'll be really interesting


Also the dumbest thing of all of this, instead of hearing out the views of teams and teams of medical experts on how we should go about handling covid, instead they wanted us to put all our stock in the opinion of one man who had shady ties to the situation to begin with
I'm sorry, I don't do my research on www.faucidrinksbabyblood.com.
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StayCurious wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:48 pm Says it all at 14:21

"There's 363,000 more (deaths) than at the start of the pandemic. This is a BIG increase. Now you would think the Office of National Statistics would go through quite a few possibilities for this. Unfortunately, they don't. All they said is, 'NHS waiting times' as the main factor. Is this a factor? Yes, of course it is. Are there other factors? I strongly suspect so, but the Office of National Statistics does not discuss them, nor are they being debated on mainstream media to any degree at all, which is surprising."


Yet another case of "pay attention to what he didn't say, then tweak it to mean whatever you want?" He said nothing other than to read some stats and describe that he isn't sure what is causing them and that the organization doesn't provide any details either. SO once again you are just making shit up and applying to an "expert" as if it somehow lends more credibility to your made-up nonsense.
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