COVID-19 - On the Ground

[pdub]

All fat people should die.
Fuck em.

"Overall, more than two-thirds of U.S. adults in the United States are overweight or have obesity."

Oh boy.

[twocoach]

Nearly 80% of the country is obese or overweight so it seems that the case you're trying to make that covid affected overweight and obese people disproportionately seems to be kinda blown up by your own data.

[randylahey]

Basically the problem was the people are unhealthy to begin with

[pdub]

Fuck em, right?
Fatties.
Deserved to die.

Just so I can feel right about what side i'm on. I'm right everyone. Pay attention to me.

[pdub]

I am around 7-12 lbs over the standard BMI depending on the week.
That puts me in the overweight category.
If I died from COVID i'd be in that 80%.

I consider myself healthy.

My guess is randy might not quite be exactly in the BMI range he needs to be in either.

[jfish26]

I am around 7-12 lbs over the standard BMI depending on the week.
That puts me in the overweight category.
If I died from COVID i'd be in that 80%.

I consider myself healthy.

My guess is randy might not quite be exactly in the BMI range he needs to be in either.

Imagine what this bored might look like if a certain probably-formerly-overweight, definitely-increased-cardiac-risk someone had contracted Covid around this time three months ago.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Gee Randy, let's see here.... Where does that information come from?
Unless I am mistaken, I believe that report was from the CDC. You know, the same CDC that ______ like you blame of lying and didn't/don't believe much of what they said in regards to Covid - and strongly ridicule for how they handled the pandemic.
Now all of a sudden they are believable and a valuable source of information - to you?
Hmmmm.

As others have alluded to, many Americans are overweight.
Yes, many people who had Covid and were hospitalized were overweight before, during, and after they had Covid. And?

[twocoach]

Basically the problem was the people are unhealthy to begin with

You're seeing the problem but drawing the wrong conclusion. It's because we have so many at-risk people in this country that we needed to take extreme measures to keep us from losing half our population you dolt.

Were all of the measures taken wise, well thought out and sensible? No, not all of them. Were some just overreactions from lawyers who didn't want their cities or businesses to be sued? Probably, yes. Did the measures save millions of lives? Unquestionably yes.

[randylahey]

Basically the problem was the people are unhealthy to begin with

You're seeing the problem but drawing the wrong conclusion. It's because we have so many at-risk people in this country that we needed to take extreme measures to keep us from losing half our population you dolt.

Were all of the measures taken wise, well thought out and sensible? No, not all of them. Were some just overreactions from lawyers who didn't want their cities or businesses to be sued? Probably, yes. Did the measures save millions of lives? Unquestionably yes.

Or maybe people could just take simple measures to be healthier?

So the rest of us don't have to take extreme measures

[jfish26]

I’ll just copy and paste this for ya, applies here too.

What you miss about this situation is that you have lit on fire, over and over again, any benefit of the doubt as to your ability - let alone your willingness - to actually discuss culture war issues in good faith.

You start discussions from positions of inhumanity, ignorance, absolutism and bad faith. I don't know if you're intentionally doing that, or if you're just a follower. But it doesn't matter, really.

[jfish26]

What a remarkable coincidence!

[Mjl]

Wow, Mao was as deadly as COVID.
That guy sucked.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Basically the problem was the people are unhealthy to begin with

You're seeing the problem but drawing the wrong conclusion. It's because we have so many at-risk people in this country that we needed to take extreme measures to keep us from losing half our population you dolt.

Were all of the measures taken wise, well thought out and sensible? No, not all of them. Were some just overreactions from lawyers who didn't want their cities or businesses to be sued? Probably, yes. Did the measures save millions of lives? Unquestionably yes.

Or maybe people could just take simple measures to be healthier?

So the rest of us don't have to take extreme measures

I have taken "simple measures" to be healthier. I'm still overweight.
Seems according to what you say, I'm supposed to feel guilty and bad about that because YOU "have (had) to take extreme measures". To be brutally honest and maybe this makes me an asshole - I really don't feel too bad about it. Partially because precautions were put in place, I followed many/most of them, and to the best of my knowledge I never contracted Covid - and definitely wasn't hospitalized with it. Imagine that!

On a related note, I am fully confident YOU don't take every possible measure to be "healthier". Am I wrong?

[randylahey]

You're seeing the problem but drawing the wrong conclusion. It's because we have so many at-risk people in this country that we needed to take extreme measures to keep us from losing half our population you dolt.

Were all of the measures taken wise, well thought out and sensible? No, not all of them. Were some just overreactions from lawyers who didn't want their cities or businesses to be sued? Probably, yes. Did the measures save millions of lives? Unquestionably yes.

Or maybe people could just take simple measures to be healthier?

So the rest of us don't have to take extreme measures

I have taken "simple measures" to be healthier. I'm still overweight.
Seems according to what you say, I'm supposed to feel guilty and bad about that because YOU "have (had) to take extreme measures". To be brutally honest and maybe this makes me an asshole - I really don't feel too bad about it. Partially because precautions were put in place, I followed many/most of them, and to the best of my knowledge I never contracted Covid - and definitely wasn't hospitalized with it. Imagine that!

On a related note, I am fully confident YOU don't take every possible measure to be "healthier". Am I wrong?

I do more than most of you to stay healthy. Exercise at the gym most days, do a lot of hiking. Cook most of my own meals, eat a lot of fresh produce, Occasional fast food. Dont smoke or anything. I do drink alcohol, so that is one that known to not be good for you that im guilty of.

But yes, I am a lot younger, skinnier, and healthier than most of you on this board. Which is why I was a lot less fearful and a lot more realistic or everything covid

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Or maybe people could just take simple measures to be healthier?

So the rest of us don't have to take extreme measures

I have taken "simple measures" to be healthier. I'm still overweight.
Seems according to what you say, I'm supposed to feel guilty and bad about that because YOU "have (had) to take extreme measures". To be brutally honest and maybe this makes me an asshole - I really don't feel too bad about it. Partially because precautions were put in place, I followed many/most of them, and to the best of my knowledge I never contracted Covid - and definitely wasn't hospitalized with it. Imagine that!

On a related note, I am fully confident YOU don't take every possible measure to be "healthier". Am I wrong?

I do more than most of you to stay healthy. Exercise at the gym most days, do a lot of hiking. Cook most of my own meals, eat a lot of fresh produce, Occasional fast food. Dont smoke or anything. I do drink alcohol, so that is one that known to not be good for you that im guilty of.

But yes, I am a lot younger, skinnier, and healthier than most of you on this board. Which is why I was a lot less fearful and a lot more realistic or everything covid

Believe it of not, I respect that YOU were "a lot less fearful" of Covid - than others.
I don't know if you were more "realistic" but you probably were in SOME regards but NOT all.
What I DON'T respect is/was your brushing off and ridiculing attitude towards others who were rightfully fearful of Covid and took precautions (yes - some extreme and dare I say in hindsight unnecessary and foolish?) for THEIR OWN VALID reasons.

[jfish26]

I have taken "simple measures" to be healthier. I'm still overweight.
Seems according to what you say, I'm supposed to feel guilty and bad about that because YOU "have (had) to take extreme measures". To be brutally honest and maybe this makes me an asshole - I really don't feel too bad about it. Partially because precautions were put in place, I followed many/most of them, and to the best of my knowledge I never contracted Covid - and definitely wasn't hospitalized with it. Imagine that!

On a related note, I am fully confident YOU don't take every possible measure to be "healthier". Am I wrong?

I do more than most of you to stay healthy. Exercise at the gym most days, do a lot of hiking. Cook most of my own meals, eat a lot of fresh produce, Occasional fast food. Dont smoke or anything. I do drink alcohol, so that is one that known to not be good for you that im guilty of.

But yes, I am a lot younger, skinnier, and healthier than most of you on this board. Which is why I was a lot less fearful and a lot more realistic or everything covid

Believe it of not, I respect that YOU were "a lot less fearful" of Covid - than others.
I don't know if you were more "realistic" but you probably were in SOME regards but NOT all.
What I DON'T respect is/was your brushing off and ridiculing attitude towards others who were rightfully fearful of Covid and took precautions (yes - some extreme and dare I say in hindsight unnecessary and foolish?) for THEIR OWN VALID reasons.

Randy doesn't want any of the burden that comes with living in a society, just the benefits. Cafeteria libertarianism at its finest.

[Sparko]

Basically the problem was the people are unhealthy to begin with

You're seeing the problem but drawing the wrong conclusion. It's because we have so many at-risk people in this country that we needed to take extreme measures to keep us from losing half our population you dolt.

Were all of the measures taken wise, well thought out and sensible? No, not all of them. Were some just overreactions from lawyers who didn't want their cities or businesses to be sued? Probably, yes. Did the measures save millions of lives? Unquestionably yes.

Or maybe people could just take simple measures to be healthier?

So the rest of us don't have to take extreme measures

Of the four people I knew who died, two were from secondary complications of the blood disease. Otherwise healthy people who developed blocks and clogs of the vascular system. That was the faster way to go. We are still trying to understand long COVID. You might not recognize it. A lingering impact on cognition, stamina and vascular system.

[randylahey]

I have taken "simple measures" to be healthier. I'm still overweight.
Seems according to what you say, I'm supposed to feel guilty and bad about that because YOU "have (had) to take extreme measures". To be brutally honest and maybe this makes me an asshole - I really don't feel too bad about it. Partially because precautions were put in place, I followed many/most of them, and to the best of my knowledge I never contracted Covid - and definitely wasn't hospitalized with it. Imagine that!

On a related note, I am fully confident YOU don't take every possible measure to be "healthier". Am I wrong?

I do more than most of you to stay healthy. Exercise at the gym most days, do a lot of hiking. Cook most of my own meals, eat a lot of fresh produce, Occasional fast food. Dont smoke or anything. I do drink alcohol, so that is one that known to not be good for you that im guilty of.

But yes, I am a lot younger, skinnier, and healthier than most of you on this board. Which is why I was a lot less fearful and a lot more realistic or everything covid

Believe it of not, I respect that YOU were "a lot less fearful" of Covid - than others.
I don't know if you were more "realistic" but you probably were in SOME regards but NOT all.
What I DON'T respect is/was your brushing off and ridiculing attitude towards others who were rightfully fearful of Covid and took precautions (yes - some extreme and dare I say in hindsight unnecessary and foolish?) for THEIR OWN VALID reasons.

I never had an issue with people being fearful or cautious. You had every right to do that, and people should have done what was best for their situation

My issue was with people trying to force their approach on others. Covid was never a "once size fits all" type situation

[randylahey]

Covid regulations caused a lot of problems that never had to be there.

As a society we never chose for covid to be a thing. But we chose for covid regulations to be a thing. That was the ignorant part of all this. We chose avoidable problems to slow the unavoidable problem once covid was already here

[jfish26]

You've thrown a three-plus-year temper tantrum over...checks notes...wearing a cloth mask sometimes.