Kansas Crimson

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:15 am

hasbeen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:14 am Chad Ford is reporting that Remy is staying in the draft, but I've seen nothing official from Remy or anyone else. I'm just going to assume/hope that Chad is an idiot and bad at maintaining a good website.

Probably works out for us fine in the long run since he was a 1 year guy. More Yesefu.

Or Marcus Carr from Minnesota

I'm having a hard time seeing minutes for JCL.

But...he was the 38th ranked recruit in his HS class...ranked ahead of guys like LaGerald Vick and KJ Lawson, but ranked behind Diallo, Malik Newman, and Dedric Lawson.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:16 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:15 am

hasbeen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:14 am Chad Ford is reporting that Remy is staying in the draft, but I've seen nothing official from Remy or anyone else. I'm just going to assume/hope that Chad is an idiot and bad at maintaining a good website.

Probably works out for us fine in the long run since he was a 1 year guy. More Yesefu.

Or Marcus Carr from Minnesota

Good lord it's hard to keep up...

Has he officially transferred to us too?

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:18 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:16 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:15 am

Probably works out for us fine in the long run since he was a 1 year guy. More Yesefu.

Or Marcus Carr from Minnesota

Good lord it's hard to keep up...

Has he officially transferred to us too?

We are on his list of 4 finalists that he released a few days ago, almost certainly as a back up in case Martin stays in the draft. He is one of the Top 5 transfers on the season but most expected him to stay in the draft. Now he has withdrawn from the draft and has Kentucky (highly unlikely as they already have about 10 PGs), Kansas, Louisville and Texas as his possible transfer destinations.

Yeah, it may bo no coincidence that we showed up on Carr’s list around the same time we hear Martin may stay in the draft

I'm not convinced Carr isn't the better option over Remy, since he's more of a true PG.

Can someone type in our current roster next year that includes our draft withdrawals and doesn't include Remy...?

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:24 am I'm not convinced Carr isn't the better option over Remy, since he's more of a true PG.

Yeah.

Without knowing that much about either game, I had the “true pg” thought as well.

Martin iirc is more a score first lead guard, than a facilitator. Same with Yes, yes?

So a floor general type could be nice, especially if we can upgrade from Dajuan and find one who can score too

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:25 am Can someone type in our current roster next year that includes our draft withdrawals and doesn't include Remy...?

Starters:
Remy Martin or Marcus Carr
Christian Braun
Ochai Agbaji
Jalen Wilson
David McCormack

Bench guards:
Joseph Yesefu (may start over Braun)
Jalen Coleman-Lands (may start over Braun)
Dajuan Harris
Bobby Pettiford
Kyle Cuffe

Bench bigs:
Cam Martin
Mitch Lightfoot
Zach Clemence
KJ Adams

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:25 am Can someone type in our current roster next year that includes our draft withdrawals and doesn't include Remy...?

Bobby Pettiford
Joseph Yesufu
Christian Braun
Dajuan Harris
Kyle Cuffe
Jalen Wilson
Chris Teahan
Charlie McCarthy
Dillon White
Michael Jankovich
Zach Clemence
KJ Adams
Ochai Agbaji
Cam Martin
David McCormack
Mitch Lightfoot
Jalen Coleman-Lands

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:27 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:24 am I'm not convinced Carr isn't the better option over Remy, since he's more of a true PG.

Yeah.

Without knowing that much about either game, I had the “true pg” thought as well.

Martin iirc is more a score first lead guard, than a facilitator. Same with Yes, yes?

So a floor general type could be nice, especially if we can upgrade from Dajuan and find one who can score too

When Martin's team needed him to be a facilitator his sophomore season, he was 2nd in the PAC 12 in assists per game and when his team needed him to be a scorer his senior season, he was 1st in the PAC 12 in points per game. He can do whatever the coaches need him to do. Carr seems to be the same way, averaging 6.5 assists per game 2 years ago and 19 points per game last season.

UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:29 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:25 am Can someone type in our current roster next year that includes our draft withdrawals and doesn't include Remy...?

Bobby Pettiford
Joseph Yesufu
Christian Braun
Dajuan Harris
Kyle Cuffe
Jalen Wilson
Chris Teahan
Charlie McCarthy
Dillon White
Michael Jankovich
Zach Clemence
KJ Adams
Ochai Agbaji
Cam Martin
David McCormack
Mitch Lightfoot
Jalen Coleman-Lands

Holy shit. (And thanks for typing that up)

No wonder i can't keep up with all the player names / positions / expected minutes.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:36 am

UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:29 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:25 am Can someone type in our current roster next year that includes our draft withdrawals and doesn't include Remy...?

Bobby Pettiford
Joseph Yesufu
Christian Braun
Dajuan Harris
Kyle Cuffe
Jalen Wilson
Chris Teahan
Charlie McCarthy
Dillon White
Michael Jankovich
Zach Clemence
KJ Adams
Ochai Agbaji
Cam Martin
David McCormack
Mitch Lightfoot
Jalen Coleman-Lands

Holy shit. (And thanks for typing that up)

No wonder i can't keep up with all the player names / positions / expected minutes.

I guess I could have taken out the names of the walk-ons, haha. Teahan, McCarthy, White, and Jankovich aren't exactly in the conversation for minutes.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:14 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:12 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:01 am

Non basketball reasons. Fair enough.

geography is the only non-basketball reason

there’s more to “development“ than playing time

But he's almost 30. Non basketball reasons make more sense than basketball reasons (if he's not going to play much, which maybe he will and then this is all moot). KC is a big(ish) market. Maybe he's actually staying in school for educational reasons? That'd be a cool switch.

or coaching aspirations?

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:40 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:14 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:12 am
geography is the only non-basketball reason

there’s more to “development“ than playing time

But he's almost 30. Non basketball reasons make more sense than basketball reasons (if he's not going to play much, which maybe he will and then this is all moot). KC is a big(ish) market. Maybe he's actually staying in school for educational reasons? That'd be a cool switch.

or coaching aspirations?

I believe his aspirations are entrepreneurial. He runs a non-profit. Good interview with him on kusports YouTube channel.

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:12 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:40 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:14 am

But he's almost 30. Non basketball reasons make more sense than basketball reasons (if he's not going to play much, which maybe he will and then this is all moot). KC is a big(ish) market. Maybe he's actually staying in school for educational reasons? That'd be a cool switch.

or coaching aspirations?

I believe his aspirations are entrepreneurial. He runs a non-profit. Good interview with him on kusports YouTube channel.

His LinkedIn page came up on a search. It's pretty interesting for sure:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jalen-colem ... -b25b78130

Some details on his non-profit platform he created:
https://247sports.com/college/iowa-stat ... 157933805/

KU will definitely allow him access to a greater audience than isu

How is Braun better than JCL?

Yesufu would be my preferred starting 2 - that offense would be devastating.

After that I think it'd be JCL because he's a better shooter than Braun.

Braun just has such an advantage by having spent multiple seasons playing in Self's system (offensively and defensively) and also has mutliple seasons playing alongside Wilson Och and DMac....that experience is what gives him a massive advantage over newcomers. Especially as the 4th or 5th best player in the rotation.

Let's keep in mind that JCL was the third option for a depaul squad that was led in scoring by Charlie Moore. And his best season was on a 2-22 (0-18) ISU team.