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Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:50 pm
by hasbeen
Sam Vecenie from The Athletic said on his podcast that Baylor, UT, Duke, and Kentucky are all better than Kansas. He had Rob Douster on who said that Remy isnt' a "winning basketball player" which is perhaps the laziest thing to say about a player. But Sam is a pretty thoughtful guy so I was surprised to hear that. Good to have my expectations tempered ahead of the game tomorrow -- they were growing a bit out of control.

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:23 am
by jfish26
hasbeen wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:50 pm Sam Vecenie from The Athletic said on his podcast that Baylor, UT, Duke, and Kentucky are all better than Kansas. He had Rob Douster on who said that Remy isnt' a "winning basketball player" which is perhaps the laziest thing to say about a player. But Sam is a pretty thoughtful guy so I was surprised to hear that. Good to have my expectations tempered ahead of the game tomorrow -- they were growing a bit out of control.
There was a time when some (me included!) thought you couldn’t win with Tyshawn, either.

I’m pumped. This should be a really fun year.

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:16 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Lands is available tonight.

If he could hit just 1 or 2 threes, it might be enough to get us on top. I agree with there being a good chance of it looking ugly.

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:18 am
by ousdahl
if Remy isn’t a winning player then how’d he beat KU all those times?

but yea, there may or may not be that point in the season when Self gets sick of Remy chucking, so the only difference between last year’s starting lineup and this year’s is Dajuan, and the “SeLf HaTeS OfFeNsE!” crowd comes out in full force while we struggle to get to 60 a game.

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:22 am
by PhDhawk
I don't know why we're assuming Self and Remy are like oil and water. Self loves shoot first/scoring PGs.

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:24 am
by CrimsonNBlue
I agree. I've never really thought of Dauster as a good analyst.

Remy gives us a dimension last year's team didn't have.

I think Self is going to have a lot of fun coaching Remy. They're going to make each other better.

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:26 am
by pdub
Yup.
Sherron, Vonte, Mason and Ty all rank in the top 6 field goals attempted in a season under Self.
( other two - TRob 2012 and Dedric 2019 )

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:21 am
by ousdahl
Good points!

Tho, did any of those other dudes ever loose a starting spot to a walk-on cuz Self wanted to send a message?

But I don’t mean to be guttermetery. I think Self will ultimately get the most out of Remy, and vice versa.

Cuz yeah it’s a dimension we need, and didn’t have last year. I just hope it all comes within the context of efficient offense.

We don’t want Remy taking off-balance guarded jumpers early in the clock.

That’s what we have Dave for!

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:37 am
by CrimsonNBlue
6 CST can't get here soon enough.

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:51 am
by ousdahl
Yeah!

Might have to get a little Tuesday boozedayed.

Prob say this around this time every year, but I’m particularly excited for this group of guys.

Veteran 3-4 year players returning to established roles, plus experienced transfers at key positions

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:59 am
by Deleted User 89
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:37 am 6 CST can't get here soon enough.
ugh

not a fan

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:01 pm
by pdub
Love it out here East Coast.

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:04 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:59 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:37 am 6 CST can't get here soon enough.
ugh

not a fan
I am on a Tuesday being in CST. Head to bar right straight from office and get a food order in right before tip.

Watch Cal spank K from the couch and hit a decent bedtime.

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:07 pm
by Deleted User 89
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:04 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:59 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:37 am 6 CST can't get here soon enough.
ugh

not a fan
I am on a Tuesday being in CST. Head to bar right straight from office and get a food order in right before tip.

Watch Cal spank K from the couch and hit a decent bedtime.
i’m just being selfish…5 pm for me is not ideal

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:18 pm
by ousdahl
For better or worse it seems like Cal might be a front runner of sorts in the NIL era, just like he was in the OAD era

And while it’s often to difficult to root for Cal, “spank K” is among the moments it’s not.

I’d be totally cool if K didn’t win a single game all season.

Heck, watch him go on a loosing streak and just abruptly retire like halfway through noncon

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:25 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I really think coach K owes us one more 3 week stint of bad play culminating in a "back problem" leave of absence.

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:33 pm
by ousdahl
He could sit out much of the season, come back for some token knobslobber of a game (you just know Dickie V will be there, with knee pads on and everything), then finally retires to his coffin before otherwise melting in the sunlight

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:51 pm
by jhawks99
ousdahl wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:51 am Yeah!

Might have to get a little Tuesday boozedayed.

Prob say this around this time every year, but I’m particularly excited for this group of guys.

Veteran 3-4 year players returning to established roles, plus experienced transfers at key positions
How gushered are you gone b?

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:53 pm
by ousdahl
2:1 odds that by this time tomorrow I’m on phog bitching about my permaban…suckas

Re: Michigan State Pho

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:46 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:33 pm He could sit out much of the season, come back for some token knobslobber of a game (you just know Dickie V will be there, with knee pads on and everything), then finally retires to his coffin before otherwise melting in the sunlight
maybe....i don't think dickie v is going much of anywhere given his recent melanoma and lymphoma diagnosis