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Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:49 pm
by PhDhawk
pdub wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:46 pm
I think we still end up with our best 5 as Ochai, Braun, Remy, Chai and Wilson.
It's gonna be a rough year if ochai is two of your top 5.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:52 pm
by ousdahl
Yes to Harris not starting
Yes to more minutes to Bobby or Yes
Yes to not going thru Dave
Not sure about Jalen coming off the bench - dude had one bad game but I think he’ll still be one of our 5 best players
Yes to Mitch’s minutes going to Zach or KJ or Jalen or fuckin JCL or anyone else at all cuz at this point we know exactly what we got in Mitch
And here’s to suggesting something like Dave needs a nice long sabbatical in Chi-O house. Release those nerves bro.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:53 pm
by pdub
Give me 5 Ochais and a title.
Best player by a mile.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:56 pm
by PhDhawk
pdub wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:53 pm
Give me 5 Ochais and a title.
Best player by a mile.
It keeps Wilson off the court at least.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:56 pm
by ArgentineHawk
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:48 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:30 pm
What are we shaking?
Coleman Lands?
Dejuan?
I love Clemence but he wont be ready for 30 mpg this season.
Nobody knows.
They just know the answer is on the bench.
There is nothing to "shake up". We just need Remy Och Jalen and CB to play well. I thought CB was good. Och was decent. Remy was good on offense and bad on defense. Wilson was bad at everything.
This is correct, “nobody knows”, but what we do know is that this starting lineup today is pretty much the guys that lost by 32 just a few months ago. And today’s opponent just recently lost to a team that’s worse than UMKC.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:56 pm
by pdub
Wilson gonna light it up come conference and beyond.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:57 pm
by ousdahl
Holy shit, phd on Wilson right now is even worse than Qusdahl on haunkey taunk last year.
You’re setting yourself up for quite the feast of crow.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:58 pm
by ArgentineHawk
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:52 pm
Yes to Harris not starting
Yes to more minutes to Bobby or Yes
Yes to not going thru Dave
Not sure about Jalen coming off the bench - dude had one bad game but I think he’ll still be one of our 5 best players
Yes to Mitch’s minutes going to Zach or KJ or Jalen or fuckin JCL or anyone else at all cuz at this point we know exactly what we got in Mitch
And here’s to suggesting something like Dave needs a nice long sabbatical in Chi-O house. Release those nerves bro.
The only reason I say he needs to come off the bench is because he’s already missed a few games. Let him get some action and he may end up being our best player.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:58 pm
by PhDhawk
pdub wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:56 pm
Wilson gonna light it up come conference and beyond.
I mean, so will dave...
It's just scary as shit that they have this type of performance in them.
And we saw it too frequently from both of them last year.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:00 pm
by ousdahl
I guess I can see that.
I at least think he’s able to respond to the challenge.
I mean, Dajuan’s line was comparably as cringe worthy as Jalen’s. The big difference tho, is Dajuan’s line tonight is pretty similar to Dajuan’s line yesterday, whereas Jalen yesterday was good.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:00 pm
by pdub
ArgentineHawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:56 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:48 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:30 pm
What are we shaking?
Coleman Lands?
Dejuan?
I love Clemence but he wont be ready for 30 mpg this season.
Nobody knows.
They just know the answer is on the bench.
There is nothing to "shake up". We just need Remy Och Jalen and CB to play well. I thought CB was good. Och was decent. Remy was good on offense and bad on defense. Wilson was bad at everything.
This is correct, “nobody knows”, but what we do know is that this starting lineup today is pretty much the guys that lost by 32 just a few months ago. And today’s opponent just recently lost to a team that’s worse than UMKC.
We are counting on our players being better.
Not on ISU transfers or, good, but not game take over Freshmen.
Pettiford is a stud.
Hes great energy.
Maybe he gets Dejuans minutes, will get better, but hes not our answer.
Self needs to get his offense moving the ball more and stop settling on deep threes.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:01 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:58 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:56 pm
Wilson gonna light it up come conference and beyond.
I mean, so will dave...
It's just scary as shit that they have this type of performance in them.
And we saw it too frequently from both of them last year.
Earlier this week, I said this start by Dave was frustrating, but not worrisome. It might be breaking into a little worrisome.
I do think Jalen is worrisome b/c he was a dumpster fire by the end of last season. Granted, we're 2 games in and he was good in one and really bad in the other. So, let's see with him.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:02 pm
by PhDhawk
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:00 pm
I guess I can see that.
I at least think he’s able to respond to the challenge.
I mean,
Dajuan’s line was comparably as cringe worthy as Jalen’s. The big difference tho, is
Dajuan’s line tonight is pretty similar to
Dajuan’s line yesterday, whereas Jalen yesterday was good.
Plenty of blame to go around and Harris deserves every bit he's getting.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:03 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I do think we need to see if Pettiford or Yes will make this team better. My prediction is it's Yes.
We need to develop/toughen up Clemence. That needs to be an option, because we know what Mitch is going to give us, and it's just not that great.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:04 pm
by ousdahl
At this point, I’d be totally cool with just running isos for Yes for at least a few possessions every game.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:06 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Yes is just so lost out there on both O and D, though. It was really apparent in person against Tarleton. Just running to the wrong spots every time.
The deeper we get into he season, the more that becomes unplayable. I think a coin flip right now with him or Pettiford. Unless one of them is secretly hiding a perimeter shot.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:08 pm
by pdub
Give me Pettiford over Yes so far.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:09 pm
by ousdahl
Yea. Dang. Dunno how we manage to find so many small guards who aren’t bigger threats from deep.
Today though, in 5 minutes Joe was able to get his own shot in the half court. We don’t have many dudes to even look to do that, let alone effectively.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:09 pm
by ArgentineHawk
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:03 pm
I do think we need to see if Pettiford or Yes will make this team better. My prediction is it's Yes.
We need to develop/toughen up Clemence. That needs to be an option, because we know what Mitch is going to give us, and it's just not that great.
I agree with this, except I feel like Bobby’s upside is a lot higher than Yes. But, I think either is better than Harris.
Re: Still NCAA Champs or bust
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:10 pm
by ousdahl
History suggests though that Joe and Bobby will sit as Self ride
-or-dies known commodity Dajuan