21-22 lineup

[PhDhawk]

depth is highly overrated. Give me 5 great players over 12 really good ones any day.

[pdub]

The one variable here is foul trouble.
Not sure if Jesse mentions it in the article.

[NDballer13]

Do all fan bases "want the subs" seemingly every year as badly as ours do?

Yes. Hence the expression "The backup quarterback is the most popular guy in town."

I like Pop's saying better. Everyone wants the backup, until it's time for the backup to be in.

[Deleted User 863]

depth is highly overrated

Yes. As long as your team is aware of it. Depth is a luxury. But "depth" simply due to #s of players bunched together not seperating themselves isn't usually a good thing.

In college you can get by with 7man rotations. Maybe 6 if your players are versatile.

[InfiniteJ]

depth is highly overrated. Give me 5 great players over 12 really good ones any day.

Some of Bill's best most cohesive teams have come in seasons where KU had a "short" bench.

[CrimsonNBlue]

Depth is why we win so many regular season conference championships.

Bill managed his ridiculous depth perfectly in 2008. Sherron and Sasha obviously needed to play a ton all season. And then Rodrick, too. The end of bench guys had just enough clock to where they weren't completely lost.

[pdub]

We've had good seasons though with deeper benches.
2008 mentioned.

2016 had Bragg, Traylor and Diallo fighting for time.
And Svi and Brannen also.

[NewtonHawk11]

depth is highly overrated. Give me 5 great players over 12 really good ones any day.

Some of Bill's best most cohesive teams have come in seasons where KU had a "short" bench.

2012 and 2018 both had short rotations. 2012 had basically 7 guys. 2018 had about 7 guys. Self is rounding into form with about 8 guys. Bench of Joe, Zach/KJ and JCL.

I personally think Mitch is about wrapped up with his time. KJ shown to be a better defensive player/rebounder and Zach the better scorer and matchup for the stretch 5.

[KUTradition]

yeah…was pleasantly surprised to see Zach come in last night on lieu of Mitch

[pdub]

What 'bout Remy?

[NDballer13]

yeah…was pleasantly surprised to see Zach come in last night on lieu of Mitch

I think Fran hit that one right on the head last night. After a dozen years, Self knows what he's getting from Mitch. KJ has shown he's ready when/if called on no matter the situation and will bring the same energy. This was a perfect time to see where Zach is at coming back from injury.

[pdub]

At home v Oklahoma State was a perfect time to get guys like Clemence clock over a guy like Lightfoot. The goal would be to have Clemence have enough game experience by March so that he could contribute as his ceiling is higher.

Also manage Dave's minutes to not chance bothering his foot any further.

[sdoyel]

[PhDhawk]

Geezus. I really don't like how these injuries are being handled.

That was another injury that was "at no risk of further damage" now he's getting surgery?

[CrimsonNBlue]

I wouldn’t rush to judgment. A logical and very possible explanation is that it couldn’t be exacerbated but that it would need to be operated on before next season. Once Yesufu supplanted him in the rotation, his camp could have said let’s get the rehab started and apply for a medical redshirt.

[pdub]

He never looked the same after he returned. Bummer for him but I hope, as opposed to the randys of the world, he gets healthy and kicks some ass at KU.

[PhDhawk]

How many injuries are there that can't be exacerbated...or that don't benefit from rest...especially among injuries that later require operation? It seems to happen to KU guys an awful lot.

And in the case of Dave, you're talking about a foot. Even if THAT injury won't be made worse, he's almost certainly changing his gate, he's going to favor the other foot, those changes make other injuries more likely. And clearly playing, at the very least, makes it hurt enough that it affects his mobility/speed/lift, etc.

And we we're told Remy's knee couldn't get worse from playing, but then in was worse by someone bumping into him during a court storming....how is a court storming bump something that couldn't happen on the court?

Let's get these guys healthy... lets stop making them worse. This benefits the team by being healthier in March and benefits the players long term.

[CrimsonNBlue]

How many injuries are there that can't be exacerbated...or that don't benefit from rest...especially among injuries that later require operation?

Don't know.

My post is only in related to the Pettiford injury.

[PhDhawk]

I just can't imagine there is an abdominal injury where that applies. I mean, a soft tissue tear could easily be made worse. And if it's a hip or something, I just am having trouble picturing a situation where playing doesn't increase pain/inflammation/etc.

I'm not a physician, so maybe I'm just being a know-it-all and mich can come chastise me for it, but we get served that line an awful lot. I mean, this is what Self said about him a week ago: "His minutes are probably limited. He's not healthy. But it's not a situation where he can hurt himself worse. So he's like Remy, it just hurts to play."

If it can't be made worse, why is there a minutes restriction?

[twocoach]

How many injuries are there that can't be exacerbated...or that don't benefit from rest...especially among injuries that later require operation? It seems to happen to KU guys an awful lot.

And in the case of Dave, you're talking about a foot. Even if THAT injury won't be made worse, he's almost certainly changing his gate, he's going to favor the other foot, those changes make other injuries more likely. And clearly playing, at the very least, makes it hurt enough that it affects his mobility/speed/lift, etc.

And we we're told Remy's knee couldn't get worse from playing, but then in was worse by someone bumping into him during a court storming....how is a court storming bump something that couldn't happen on the court?

Let's get these guys healthy... lets stop making them worse. This benefits the team by being healthier in March and benefits the players long term.

A full tear of a small muscle or tissue of some kind. Not a major ligament but something small like a tendon or small muscle. Your foot has a bunch of small bands of muscles and tissues. Once it is torn, it is torn. It hurts like shit but it is just going to sit there fully torn until it gets sewn back together if that's possible. Some things are just kinda your unfortunate new normal.