fypCrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:59 am Sporting News + AP are good enough to make Och consensus first team.
Och senior year
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So, pre-tournament, Self guys that we already knew were going rafters?
Simien
Collins
Aldrich
Robinson
Mason
Graham
Agbaji
Exclusive group.
(No on Marcus, b/c I don't think we knew Big 12 POY was good enough at that time)
Simien
Collins
Aldrich
Robinson
Mason
Graham
Agbaji
Exclusive group.
(No on Marcus, b/c I don't think we knew Big 12 POY was good enough at that time)
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Embiid. Just because he will be HoF and a recruiting draw and most of us realized it at the time except for Illy. He did turn into the best version of himself at KU.
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I don't remember Cole being that much of a lock?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:27 pm So, pre-tournament, Self guys that we already knew were going rafters?
Simien
Collins
Aldrich
Robinson
Mason
Graham
Agbaji
Exclusive group.
(No on Marcus, b/c I don't think we knew Big 12 POY was good enough at that time)
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National academic player of the yearNDballer13 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:29 pmI don't remember Cole being that much of a lock?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:27 pm So, pre-tournament, Self guys that we already knew were going rafters?
Simien
Collins
Aldrich
Robinson
Mason
Graham
Agbaji
Exclusive group.
(No on Marcus, b/c I don't think we knew Big 12 POY was good enough at that time)
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I remember academics playing a role, but I just assumed that stuff was announced after the season/semester.Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:31 pmNational academic player of the yearNDballer13 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:29 pmI don't remember Cole being that much of a lock?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:27 pm So, pre-tournament, Self guys that we already knew were going rafters?
Simien
Collins
Aldrich
Robinson
Mason
Graham
Agbaji
Exclusive group.
(No on Marcus, b/c I don't think we knew Big 12 POY was good enough at that time)
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Will Garrett go up as well for winning National DPoY?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:27 pm So, pre-tournament, Self guys that we already knew were going rafters?
Simien
Collins
Aldrich
Robinson
Mason
Graham
Agbaji
Exclusive group.
(No on Marcus, b/c I don't think we knew Big 12 POY was good enough at that time)
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This. There is plenty of wall space inside AFH to celebrate the brief Kansas career of Joel Embiid. He accomplished nothing ina Kansas uniform that warrants putting his jersey in the rafters. Kansas has enough famous former players that it doesn't need to do that just for publicity.
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I don't think it's a very complicated issue.
Embiid doesn't need to be up there for us to use him as a recruiting tool. Much more to the point, putting him up there would have big "spray paint a banner for NCAA appearances" energy.
I think the criteria are about right, and in fact none of them - not a single one - would prohibit putting a one-and-done up.
Embiid doesn't need to be up there for us to use him as a recruiting tool. Much more to the point, putting him up there would have big "spray paint a banner for NCAA appearances" energy.
I think the criteria are about right, and in fact none of them - not a single one - would prohibit putting a one-and-done up.
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Agreed. If Wiggins would have won Big 12 PoY over Ejim (like he probably should have) then he would be in line to get up there as well.jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:36 pm I don't think it's a very complicated issue.
Embiid doesn't need to be up there for us to use him as a recruiting tool. Much more to the point, putting him up there would have big "spray paint a banner for NCAA appearances" energy.
I think the criteria are about right, and in fact none of them - not a single one - would prohibit putting a one-and-done up.
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I must have been at the game because I specifically recall Self acknowledging Cole's award before Sherron's senior night stuff and Cole wiping away tears--didn't get a speech, of course.NDballer13 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:36 pmI remember academics playing a role, but I just assumed that stuff was announced after the season/semester.
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Of course it is up to Bill, but I think that is a reach and Bill no longer has to get creative to get a bunch of his guys up there.twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:58 pmWill Garrett go up as well for winning National DPoY?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:27 pm So, pre-tournament, Self guys that we already knew were going rafters?
Simien
Collins
Aldrich
Robinson
Mason
Graham
Agbaji
Exclusive group.
(No on Marcus, b/c I don't think we knew Big 12 POY was good enough at that time)
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Garrett would have probably been line-fudged into the rafters if we'd made the Final Four or something last year.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:10 pmOf course it is up to Bill, but I think that is a reach and Bill no longer has to get creative to get a bunch of his guys up there.twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:58 pmWill Garrett go up as well for winning National DPoY?CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:27 pm So, pre-tournament, Self guys that we already knew were going rafters?
Simien
Collins
Aldrich
Robinson
Mason
Graham
Agbaji
Exclusive group.
(No on Marcus, b/c I don't think we knew Big 12 POY was good enough at that time)
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Whether then or some time else, Self has confirmed this.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:09 pmI must have been at the game because I specifically recall Self acknowledging Cole's award before Sherron's senior night stuff and Cole wiping away tears--didn't get a speech, of course.NDballer13 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:36 pmI remember academics playing a role, but I just assumed that stuff was announced after the season/semester.
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All this said, so good for Ochai to make it as far as he has.
Give me 3 more weeks of awesomeness to top it off please.
Give me 3 more weeks of awesomeness to top it off please.
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so on average we are retiring a jersey about every 2 years? thats too many
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What are we supposed to do?randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:54 pm so on average we are retiring a jersey about every 2 years? thats too many
Kansas math.