DMac or Landen?
Jalen or Perry?
Haunkey or Kelly?
Och or Selden?
Marcus or Frank?
Dajuan, Mitch, Tristan, TGIF - or - Devonte, Jamari, Svi, Brannen Greene?
Fair point on Lawson being a go-to. But again, not like Danny Manning was.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:12 am Well, the big difference is the trend line.
2019, we just got worse and worse as the season went on and we lost players.
This year our worst is behind us and we're getting better. 2019 was a four seed that finished the year like a 7 seed and we're a 4 seed that is finishing like a 3 seed. (depending on the remaining games)
The one thing 2019 had that this team doesn't was a go-to guy in Lawson.
Me too, and the '09 team did very well for themselves and were playing their best ball at the end.
I think this is a case of hingsight being 20/20. You're using the reasons those teams got bounced as evidence that they weren't good. I don't think that's the same thing.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:23 am This is the very optimistic, but not completely unrealistic view: this team, going into the tournament, might be in better shape than all of:
2005 - fractured
2006 - frosh
2009 - inexperienced
2014 - Joel/naadir
2015 - yuck
2019 - yuckiest
06 and 09 were the hardest ones to put in there because they look like they were better teams than this one. Hindsight is 20/20, especially on the '06 team--just didn't have the maturity to follow up the Texas game, which felt like a national championship to them.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:38 amI think this is a case of hingsight being 20/20. You're using the reasons those teams got bounced as evidence that they weren't good. I don't think that's the same thing.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:23 am This is the very optimistic, but not completely unrealistic view: this team, going into the tournament, might be in better shape than all of:
2005 - fractured
2006 - frosh
2009 - inexperienced
2014 - Joel/naadir
2015 - yuck
2019 - yuckiest
2005 went into the tourney loosing (similar to 2019, played its worst ball late), but that's still #11 in kenpom
2006 - Just a hard NO for me, Yes young and inexperienced...but they were #8 in Kenpom
2009 - Two best players were better than any two on this team.
2014 - Yes, because of Embiid's injury...otherwise they were #7 in kenpom
2015 - Yes, because of Ellis' injury and Cliff
2019 - Yes, because of Dok's injury and Vick.