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Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:28 am
by hoopla
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:15 am
ousdahl wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:58 am If the NCAA or IARP bring down the hammer, could there be some other civil action available to KU against the NCAA?

Say, we relied on the NCAA’s own clearinghouse to certify these guys, and now the NCAA is saying we should have known better anyway.

I’m biased, but that argument seems to hold more water than the NCAA saying we should have known better than to be the victims of criminal fraud.
Did you see how short our skirt was?

We were asking for it.
great comment, phd.

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:32 am
by Sparko
There is always a waiver. There is always an appeal. The NCAA should have waived the punishment. The crazy enforcement of rules caused the NIL to finally be forced on them kicking and screaming. Their own senior personnel turned a blind eye to certain schools (UNC, UK and Duke for example). And they are culpable for the Shoe Factory paradigm. Every school with uniform/shoe deals should also come under the same punishment umbrella.

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:30 pm
by KUTradition

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:41 pm
by DrPepper
So is that "submitted" or "cemented"
:lol:

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:02 pm
by twocoach
ousdahl wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:58 am If the NCAA or IARP bring down the hammer, could there be some other civil action available to KU against the NCAA?

Say, we relied on the NCAA’s own clearinghouse to certify these guys, and now the NCAA is saying we should have known better anyway.

I’m biased, but that argument seems to hold more water than the NCAA saying we should have known better than to be the victims of criminal fraud.
Self's lawyers are almost guaranteed to drag this into court. I get the feeling that Bill Self wants Nike's dirty laundry, and thus Duke/Arizona and other's dirty laundry, drug out into the open for all to see as well.

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:10 pm
by twocoach
Sparko wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:32 am There is always a waiver. There is always an appeal. The NCAA should have waived the punishment. The crazy enforcement of rules caused the NIL to finally be forced on them kicking and screaming. Their own senior personnel turned a blind eye to certain schools (UNC, UK and Duke for example). And they are culpable for the Shoe Factory paradigm. Every school with uniform/shoe deals should also come under the same punishment umbrella.
There is no appeal of the IARP ruling.

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:09 pm
by Sparko
twocoach wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:10 pm
Sparko wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:32 am There is always a waiver. There is always an appeal. The NCAA should have waived the punishment. The crazy enforcement of rules caused the NIL to finally be forced on them kicking and screaming. Their own senior personnel turned a blind eye to certain schools (UNC, UK and Duke for example). And they are culpable for the Shoe Factory paradigm. Every school with uniform/shoe deals should also come under the same punishment umbrella.
There is no appeal of the IARP ruling.
Tell that to the lawyers.

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:17 pm
by KUTradition
yeah, there may be no formal appeal process built in but that doesn’t mean their ruling is the end-all and be-all

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:47 pm
by twocoach
Sparko wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:09 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:10 pm
Sparko wrote: Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:32 am There is always a waiver. There is always an appeal. The NCAA should have waived the punishment. The crazy enforcement of rules caused the NIL to finally be forced on them kicking and screaming. Their own senior personnel turned a blind eye to certain schools (UNC, UK and Duke for example). And they are culpable for the Shoe Factory paradigm. Every school with uniform/shoe deals should also come under the same punishment umbrella.
There is no appeal of the IARP ruling.
Tell that to the lawyers.
Suing the NCAA in a real court is not an appeal. That said, I 100% believe that is the direction this is headed.

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:17 pm
by KUTradition

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:21 pm
by pdub
How can I buy I want

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:47 pm
by Cascadia
That’s dope

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:03 pm
by DrPepper
It looks ok. The title is very good. I am so glad it isn't mouths wide open. Someone in Lawrence thinks bobbing-for-apples try-outs look should be the go to look for nearly everything.

Just one example:
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Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:06 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
This one by Nick Krug is also great.

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Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:24 pm
by PortlandHawk
David, for me, was one of the most frustrating players to watch, but now all is forgiven. My wife won’t let me forget that I bagged on him all season.

I once said he made Landon Lucas look like he was Travis Kelce(as it relates to his ability to catch entry passes).

I’m so glad I’m an idiot, makes it easy to forgive and forget.

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:19 pm
by KUTradition
not an idiot

him laying turds earlier and then ballin out in the tourney can both be true (and are, imo)

good Dave is/was an absolute presence

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:40 am
by Deleted User 863
Dave didn't lay that many "turds". Especially when you account for bad matchups where our strategy was to go to Mitch for defensive versatility purposes.

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:02 am
by KUTradition
go away, stalker

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:06 am
by MICHHAWK
Big Dave is now a legend.

1 more year!

Re: Bill Self w/ 2

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:46 am
by Deleted User 863
KUTradition wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:02 am go away, stalker
Trolling on the basketball board is frowned upon.

Take it to the correct place, troll.