Great. Finally, some common ground!
No time to goof around tho, this shit is furry impawrtant.
Let’s have a war!
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Yeah, that only works if you can get Russia to have and use less weapons. Which you can't. That's the sucky part about having an evil scumbag in charge of a major world power. At some point, you have no choice but to try to defend yourself.ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:15 pmno, I'm not.
no, really, I'm not!
that's why I had to quote this - to once again try and set the record straight, not that it matters. It's like you're not trying to engage me, so much as you're trying to engage the Q character you let live in your head.
but - for the record - I don't want ANYone to get slaughtered. I've been consistent about this.
And I think the better way to avoid slaughter is with LESS weapons, not more more more. (How American is it to have the same views about war as we do about "the best way to mitigate gun violence is more guns")
But heck, about this much: let's play ball: if we REALLY must insist that the best solution is always more weapons weapons weapons, getting shipped to all these foreign countries as fast as we can, couldn't we at least get some more solid intel before we do?
What makes you think that they don't have "solid intel"? How do you think they are getting these weapons into the country?
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https://thebulletin.org/2022/04/siegfri ... st-heading
… The nuclear nonproliferation regime was built around the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty as its central element. However, it is embedded in a fabric of other agreements, practices, and norms that require international cooperation—and leadership from the big nuclear powers. Russia has played a central role in the nonproliferation regime and with the International Atomic Energy Agency. It’s going to be difficult to see how we’re going to live with an international system, where we have a formerly responsible nuclear state that’s now become a pariah state—a country we can no longer count on to be responsible in nuclear matters—but is still so actively involved in the nuclear arena, even though it might have shot itself in the foot.
I should add that in addition to upending the global nonproliferation regime, Russia may have also delivered the death knell to arms control, which has already been on the ropes over the past 20 year—being diminished by both Russian and American governments...
… The nuclear nonproliferation regime was built around the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty as its central element. However, it is embedded in a fabric of other agreements, practices, and norms that require international cooperation—and leadership from the big nuclear powers. Russia has played a central role in the nonproliferation regime and with the International Atomic Energy Agency. It’s going to be difficult to see how we’re going to live with an international system, where we have a formerly responsible nuclear state that’s now become a pariah state—a country we can no longer count on to be responsible in nuclear matters—but is still so actively involved in the nuclear arena, even though it might have shot itself in the foot.
I should add that in addition to upending the global nonproliferation regime, Russia may have also delivered the death knell to arms control, which has already been on the ropes over the past 20 year—being diminished by both Russian and American governments...
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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putin eying Moldova?
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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that's actually one of the western war talking points that seems at odds with itself.
Putin somehow "doesn't even have the manpower and equipment to take half of Ukraine," yet is still simultaneously somehow a threat to succeed in some bid for world imperial conquest.
so which is it? is he gonna take over the world, or take his ball and go home?
Putin somehow "doesn't even have the manpower and equipment to take half of Ukraine," yet is still simultaneously somehow a threat to succeed in some bid for world imperial conquest.
so which is it? is he gonna take over the world, or take his ball and go home?
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ok
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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dangit.
Over and over I hope and think maybe we can actually just chill in this thread, but I should know better.
don't let me be annoying.
Over and over I hope and think maybe we can actually just chill in this thread, but I should know better.
don't let me be annoying.
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too late. all he said was ok. because its impossible to discuss anything in this thread without a request to rehash 50 pages of thread to come full circle
Just Ledoux it
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Yeah, it’s a shame.
Sigh.
If any of you guys find yourselves on a trout stream this weekend, think small. Still mostly only midge hatches. The biggest bug you’re likely to see would be a blue wing olive mayfly, which is still only about a size 18 at the biggest.
Sigh.
If any of you guys find yourselves on a trout stream this weekend, think small. Still mostly only midge hatches. The biggest bug you’re likely to see would be a blue wing olive mayfly, which is still only about a size 18 at the biggest.
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I don’t think he will finish the job before starting on Moldova. I think he’s that dumb/arrogant
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Ousdahl is gonna clownsuit you for comments like that......right?
Just Ledoux it
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Kinda agree with this - it's become a thing to portray the adversary as both an evil plotting mastermind, and also an idiot at the same time. Happened with Obama and Trump, happening now with Putin.ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 9:32 am that's actually one of the western war talking points that seems at odds with itself.
Putin somehow "doesn't even have the manpower and equipment to take half of Ukraine," yet is still simultaneously somehow a threat to succeed in some bid for world imperial conquest.
so which is it? is he gonna take over the world, or take his ball and go home?
I'll take the unders on him invading Moldova.
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lol, that too. Someone needs to kill that prick. Like 15 years ago.