F the NCAA

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number of followers means jack shit

i have an instagram account that i haven’t used in 10+ years, but i once followed a handful of people...my “following” still counts, despite it being meaningless
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:06 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:03 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:01 pm

Sorry i didn't use your preferred wording.

To me Save us = no punishment at all. And I don't think that's happening, especially not for KT.
Sign me up right the fuck now for that and I will happily argue over the semantics.
I agree. I'd be fine with that ending too.

But i don't think it'll be due to NIL changes, it'll be due to their inability to fully prove any of it.
TCU essentially admitted it.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:06 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:04 pm What we are accused of doing (and were doing) are still not allowed under the new NIL changes from everything i have read. You can't offer recruits money/gifts to come to your school. You can't facilitate endorsements. Etc.
Meanwhile, the sanctions are getting less severe by the day for even worse offenders. It's the environment.
Again, i agree...although has anyone had a punishment handed down by the special group handling our stuff?
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TraditionKU wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:06 pm number of followers means jack shit
Ummm that's part of how you generate income from social media accounts (followers on insta, subscribers on youtube, both are just the click of a button)...so I'd say it absolutely means more than jack shit.
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:09 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:06 pm number of followers means jack shit
Ummm that's part of how you generate income from social media accounts (followers on insta, subscribers on youtube, both are just the click of a button)...so I'd say it absolutely means more than jack shit.
yes, i understand that

my comment was more in response to SDS still having followers despite not being a player for some time

i’d wager that most of his followers started following him while he was playing, not since he stopped

and, i’d wager a non-insignificant portion of his followers aren’t all that active, and hanging on every tweet/post

so again, raw number of followers really doesn’t mean shit

edit: aka, it isn’t indicative of his actual level of influence
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I just wish he hung out behind QT, rather than in front of Brothers…
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MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:58 am i love mitch lightfoot. my favorite current player by a wide margin. but i cannot come up with a circumstance where i am directly giving him my money.
Neat.
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:07 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:06 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:04 pm What we are accused of doing (and were doing) are still not allowed under the new NIL changes from everything i have read. You can't offer recruits money/gifts to come to your school. You can't facilitate endorsements. Etc.
Meanwhile, the sanctions are getting less severe by the day for even worse offenders. It's the environment.
Again, i agree...although has anyone had a punishment handed down by the special group handling our stuff?
No, but they are part of the same organization existing at the same time in history.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:17 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:07 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:06 pm

Meanwhile, the sanctions are getting less severe by the day for even worse offenders. It's the environment.
Again, i agree...although has anyone had a punishment handed down by the special group handling our stuff?
No, but they are part of the same organization existing at the same time in history.
At some point I would imagine, regardless of what the procedures say, the NCAA will go to Goff and try to broker some sort of deal that can look, in the press release, like a stiff punishment (but is not, in actuality, anything we really care about).
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:26 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:17 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:07 pm

Again, i agree...although has anyone had a punishment handed down by the special group handling our stuff?
No, but they are part of the same organization existing at the same time in history.
At some point I would imagine, regardless of what the procedures say, the NCAA will go to Goff and try to broker some sort of deal that can look, in the press release, like a stiff punishment (but is not, in actuality, anything we really care about).
2-year postseason ban for Cleveland State.
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I thought the committee handling our stuff was entirely independent from the NCAA?
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:34 pm I thought the committee handling our stuff was entirely independent from the NCAA?
It's supposed to be independent of the general enforcement apparatus.

But again - this is uncharted waters.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:38 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:34 pm I thought the committee handling our stuff was entirely independent from the NCAA?
It's supposed to be independent of the general enforcement apparatus.

But again - this is uncharted waters.
Gotcha. Is it still made up of NCAA employees?
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:39 pm
jfish26 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:38 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:34 pm I thought the committee handling our stuff was entirely independent from the NCAA?
It's supposed to be independent of the general enforcement apparatus.

But again - this is uncharted waters.
Gotcha. Is it still made up of NCAA employees?
I don't think so, no.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:44 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:39 pm
jfish26 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:38 pm

It's supposed to be independent of the general enforcement apparatus.

But again - this is uncharted waters.
Gotcha. Is it still made up of NCAA employees?
I don't think so, no.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:14 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:58 am i love mitch lightfoot. my favorite current player by a wide margin. but i cannot come up with a circumstance where i am directly giving him my money.
Neat.
It’s so cute that he thinks anyone cares.
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:39 pm
jfish26 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:38 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:34 pm I thought the committee handling our stuff was entirely independent from the NCAA?
It's supposed to be independent of the general enforcement apparatus.

But again - this is uncharted waters.
Gotcha. Is it still made up of NCAA employees?
The decision makers are not employees of NCAA, but the entire process is still under NCAA.The Board they report to has both D1 members and independent members.
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Cascadia wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:47 pm
jfish26 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:14 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:58 am i love mitch lightfoot. my favorite current player by a wide margin. but i cannot come up with a circumstance where i am directly giving him my money.
Neat.
It’s so cute that he thinks anyone cares.
I think it's fascinating to find out that he thinks that ALL of this discussion was so that ultimately, a fan could hand a player a fiver if you saw them at Chipotle, or you could periodically venmo them 8 bucks.
I only came to kick some ass...

Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
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PhDhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:49 pm
Cascadia wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:47 pm
jfish26 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:14 pm

Neat.
It’s so cute that he thinks anyone cares.
I think it's fascinating to find out that he thinks that ALL of this discussion was so that ultimately, a fan could hand a player a fiver if you saw them at Chipotle, or you could periodically venmo them 8 bucks.
No longer have to make those Venmo transactions private!
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PhDhawk wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:49 pm
Cascadia wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:47 pm
jfish26 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:14 pm

Neat.
It’s so cute that he thinks anyone cares.
I think it's fascinating to find out that he thinks that ALL of this discussion was so that ultimately, a fan could hand a player a fiver if you saw them at Chipotle, or you could periodically venmo them 8 bucks.
I, for one, could think of some excellent Mitch uses on Cameo.
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