F the NCAA

[jfish26]

(Shelby waves from the back row.)

[Deleted User 62]

(Selby waves from the back row.)

[Lonestarjayhawk]

The NBPA is looking at it wrong. They should see that owners are trading rookie scale salaries for older player's established salaries. Better deal for the owners...

[CrimsonNBlue]

I don't know about that. These old veteran guys are taking pennies on the dollar and usually on one year deals.

They're also taking mid level exception contracts. Can't do that with rookies.

[PortlandHawk]

So... any movement in the Silvio appeal?

[twocoach]

heard a comment the other day that if whomever had the first pick in the draft each year would just take the best high school prospect, that they’d “miss” only about 30% of the time...at most

2011 Rivals 150:

1) Austin Rivers
2) Anthony Davis

2015:

1) Skal Labissiere
2) Ben Simmons

2006:
1) Greg Oden
2) Kevin Durant

[jfish26]

heard a comment the other day that if whomever had the first pick in the draft each year would just take the best high school prospect, that they’d “miss” only about 30% of the time...at most

2011 Rivals 150:

1) Austin Rivers
2) Anthony Davis

2015:

1) Skal Labissiere
2) Ben Simmons

2006:
1) Greg Oden
2) Kevin Durant

...so what you're saying is that, in the eighteen drafts from and after 2006, there would have been three misses? 16.67%?

[CrimsonNBlue]

That also assumes that the high school recruiting media and NBA scouts are in agreement over who the #1 HS prospect is and is accordingly reflected in their respective rankings. That's certainly not the case.

e.g. Selby and Irving.

[twocoach]

heard a comment the other day that if whomever had the first pick in the draft each year would just take the best high school prospect, that they’d “miss” only about 30% of the time...at most

2011 Rivals 150:

1) Austin Rivers
2) Anthony Davis

2015:

1) Skal Labissiere
2) Ben Simmons

2006:
1) Greg Oden
2) Kevin Durant

...so what you're saying is that, in the eighteen drafts from and after 2006, there would have been three misses? 16.67%?

No. Those were just the most egregious ones. There are numerous others that would have been a miss based on the fit with the team that picked first.

[NDballer13]

2011 Rivals 150:

1) Austin Rivers
2) Anthony Davis

2015:

1) Skal Labissiere
2) Ben Simmons

2006:
1) Greg Oden
2) Kevin Durant

...so what you're saying is that, in the eighteen drafts from and after 2006, there would have been three misses? 16.67%?

No. Those were just the most egregious ones. There are numerous others that would have been a miss based on the fit with the team that picked first.

2008 was BJ Mullens ahead of Jrue Holiday and DeRozan. 2010 was Selby. 2012 was Shabazz Muhammed. 2014 was Jahlil Okafor. Michael Porter Jr would have been the #1 pick.

Use those 4 years and your miss goes up to 7/18 for almost 40%.

[kubandalum]

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/art ... 81209.html

New bill introduced in Congress.

[Cascadia]

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/art ... 81209.html

New bill introduced in Congress.

I like

[jfish26]

There's one percolating in the state legislature of California as well. Good.

[hartjack8]

Judge rules against NCAA in antitrust lawsuit

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor ... st-lawsuit

The NCAA is going to mess this up. They can get ahead of this or continue to put there head in the sand.

[ousdahl]

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/art ... 81209.html

New bill introduced in Congress.

The mere fact that this is getting the attention of federal lawmakers, and may ultimately take a fucking act of Congress, is an indicator of just how big the problem really is.

[jfish26]

Certainly, the cost (in both dollars and investigative and prosecutorial resources) that has gone into carrying the NCAA’s water is shameful and reason enough to want change.

[NDballer13]

More coaches indicted today. This time completely unrelated to paying players. Apparently taking brides to label kids as "athletes" so they get lower standards to be accepted.

[jfish26]

I get the sense this really isn't about basketball, but is about abusing status as a non-revenue-sport athlete to get admission.

(It's here I'd note that basketball (and, most notably, the efforts of generally poor, black kids) presently subsidizes the education of these (generally, rich, white) kids who weren't qualified to get into the schools in the first place).

[jfish26]

Also - it's pretty fucking terrific that the NCAA has enough time to find reason to suspend de Sousa for two seasons, while not even bothering to see if non-revenue-sports kids even play sports.

[NewtonHawk11]

Also - it's pretty fucking terrific that the NCAA has enough time to find reason to suspend de Sousa for two seasons, while not even bothering to see if non-revenue-sports kids even play sports.

That’s the most bizarre thing. Like how does someone get admitted as an athlete, but they weren’t even on rosters or anything like that.

So dumb. NCAA is completely deflating more and more each day.