Also, with a $40 BILLION endowment, Harvard is garbage.
Where's the petri dish thread?
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
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Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
I have purposely avoided discussing this issue more than tangentially*. Yes, it is stupid for us to be calling ourselves "advanced", "industrialized" or even "civilized" on the basis of how we distribute healthcare in this country. The tweeter (who I have never heard of) is absolutely correct. If this current epidemic isn't a case for single-payer health insurance I don't know what is. Even the most cantankerous opponent has yet to suggest any constructive alternatives, other than just they are afraid of the big-bad-gubmint. We trust the government with nuclear missiles and insurance company middle managers with our health - what's wrong with this picture?????????
There, with apologies to the worst of the mixed-metaphors, I was itching to shine light on the elephant in the room and I have finally opened this can of worms
*In another thread TDub mentioned that a lot of people are coming to their jobs at his workplace because they are afraid to lose health insurance. That is no way to run an economy!
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Interview with epidemiologist Larry Brilliant, who worked on eradicating smallpox.
Now that we've missed the opportunity for early testing, is it too late for testing to make a difference?
Absolutely not. Tests would make a measurable difference. We should be doing a stochastic process random probability sample of the country to find out where the hell the virus really is. Because we don't know. Maybe Mississippi is reporting no cases because it's not looking. How would they know? Zimbabwe reports zero cases because they don't have testing capability, not because they don't have the virus. We need something that looks like a home pregnancy test, that you can do at home.
https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus ... logist/amp
Now that we've missed the opportunity for early testing, is it too late for testing to make a difference?
Absolutely not. Tests would make a measurable difference. We should be doing a stochastic process random probability sample of the country to find out where the hell the virus really is. Because we don't know. Maybe Mississippi is reporting no cases because it's not looking. How would they know? Zimbabwe reports zero cases because they don't have testing capability, not because they don't have the virus. We need something that looks like a home pregnancy test, that you can do at home.
https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus ... logist/amp
Don't inject Lysol.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Anthony Fauci will be on CBS "Face the Nation" at 9:30am central time. It could be interesting to see what he has to say when he's not spending the balance of his time genuflecting and prostrating himself to Trump, and when he's not trying to correct what Trump just said, i.e., lied about.
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
Derek Cressman
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
As noted at the end, it's a very small sample size so we can't draw any conclusions, but information is power, and we'd be dum not to let this inform us, considering the paucity of data at this point.
A researcher letter published in JAMA has described some of the initial characteristics and outcomes of critically ill patients with COVID-19.
The small case series involved 21 patients with confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection, the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19, who were admitted to the ICU at Evergreen Hospital in Kirkland, Washington, from Feb. 20 to March 5. The mean age of patients was 70 years and approximately half were men. The most common comorbidities, which were present in 86% of patients, included chronic kidney disease and congestive heart failure.
Symptom onset occurred an average of 3.5 days before hospital presentation, with most patients experiencing shortness of breath (76%), fever (52%) and cough (48%). Eighty-one percent were admitted to the ICU less than 24 hours after admission.
In terms of imaging, the researchers found that 95% of patients had an abnormal chest radiograph at admission, with bilateral reticular opacities (52%) and ground-glass opacities (48%) as the most common initial findings. The proportion of patients with bilateral reticular nodular opacities and ground-glass opacities increased to 86% and 67%, respectively, by 72 hours after admission.
Results showed that the mean white blood cell count was 9,365 µL at admission, approximately two-thirds had a white blood cell count in the normal range and approximately two-thirds had an absolute lymphocyte count less than 1,000 cells/µL.
Thirty-eight percent of patients also had abnormal liver function tests at admission.
Initiation of mechanical ventilation was common, occurring in 71% of patients. Of those requiring mechanical ventilation, all developed acute respiratory distress syndrome within 72 hours. Sixty-seven percent of patients also received vasopressors during the illness, although most patients did not present with shock.
One-third of patients also developed cardiomyopathy.
“It is unclear whether the high rate of cardiomyopathy in this case series reflects a direct cardiac complication of SARS-CoV-2 infection or resulted from overwhelming critical illness. Others have described cardiomyopathy in COVID-19, and further research may better characterize this risk,” the researchers wrote.
As of Tuesday, 67% of patients had died, 24% remained critically ill and 9.5% were discharged from the ICU.
The researchers noted that the study is limited by the small number of patients and its single-center design, as well as the study population, which included older residents of skilled nursing facilities. Consequently, these results may not capture the broader experience of other critically ill patients with COVID-19.
A researcher letter published in JAMA has described some of the initial characteristics and outcomes of critically ill patients with COVID-19.
The small case series involved 21 patients with confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection, the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19, who were admitted to the ICU at Evergreen Hospital in Kirkland, Washington, from Feb. 20 to March 5. The mean age of patients was 70 years and approximately half were men. The most common comorbidities, which were present in 86% of patients, included chronic kidney disease and congestive heart failure.
Symptom onset occurred an average of 3.5 days before hospital presentation, with most patients experiencing shortness of breath (76%), fever (52%) and cough (48%). Eighty-one percent were admitted to the ICU less than 24 hours after admission.
In terms of imaging, the researchers found that 95% of patients had an abnormal chest radiograph at admission, with bilateral reticular opacities (52%) and ground-glass opacities (48%) as the most common initial findings. The proportion of patients with bilateral reticular nodular opacities and ground-glass opacities increased to 86% and 67%, respectively, by 72 hours after admission.
Results showed that the mean white blood cell count was 9,365 µL at admission, approximately two-thirds had a white blood cell count in the normal range and approximately two-thirds had an absolute lymphocyte count less than 1,000 cells/µL.
Thirty-eight percent of patients also had abnormal liver function tests at admission.
Initiation of mechanical ventilation was common, occurring in 71% of patients. Of those requiring mechanical ventilation, all developed acute respiratory distress syndrome within 72 hours. Sixty-seven percent of patients also received vasopressors during the illness, although most patients did not present with shock.
One-third of patients also developed cardiomyopathy.
“It is unclear whether the high rate of cardiomyopathy in this case series reflects a direct cardiac complication of SARS-CoV-2 infection or resulted from overwhelming critical illness. Others have described cardiomyopathy in COVID-19, and further research may better characterize this risk,” the researchers wrote.
As of Tuesday, 67% of patients had died, 24% remained critically ill and 9.5% were discharged from the ICU.
The researchers noted that the study is limited by the small number of patients and its single-center design, as well as the study population, which included older residents of skilled nursing facilities. Consequently, these results may not capture the broader experience of other critically ill patients with COVID-19.
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
Derek Cressman
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
What I am hoping for is that the huge spike in cases in the country due to the arrival of widespread tests is enough to drive the rest of the "it's just the flu" deniers out of stores and into their homes. It seems to require a shock to the some people's system (or new laws) to get some to take this seriously.seahawk wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:35 am Interview with epidemiologist Larry Brilliant, who worked on eradicating smallpox.
Now that we've missed the opportunity for early testing, is it too late for testing to make a difference?
Absolutely not. Tests would make a measurable difference. We should be doing a stochastic process random probability sample of the country to find out where the hell the virus really is. Because we don't know. Maybe Mississippi is reporting no cases because it's not looking. How would they know? Zimbabwe reports zero cases because they don't have testing capability, not because they don't have the virus. We need something that looks like a home pregnancy test, that you can do at home.
https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus ... logist/amp
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Life out of balance!Feral wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:45 pmTalk about "bipartisanship"!DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:01 pm https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/2 ... ers-140023
FFS:
The Justice Department has quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies — part of a push for new powers that comes as the coronavirus spreads through the United States....
The proposal would also grant those top judges broad authority to pause court proceedings during emergencies. It would apply to “any statutes or rules of procedure otherwise affecting pre-arrest, post-arrest, pre-trial, trial, and post-trial procedures in criminal and juvenile proceedings and all civil process and proceedings,” according to draft legislative language the department shared with Congress. In making the case for the change, the DOJ document wrote that individual judges can currently pause proceedings during emergencies, but that their proposal would make sure all judges in any particular district could handle emergencies “in a consistent manner.”
PRE-arrest?
Fuck off.
No, I don't mean Mike Lee and AOC.
But then, what's more heartwarming than to see DC endorsing AOC's pov?
First DC was channeling AOC, and now Chuck?
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
Derek Cressman
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
When Cancer And Coronavirus Collide: Fear And Resiliencezsn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:02 amI have purposely avoided discussing this issue more than tangentially*. Yes, it is stupid for us to be calling ourselves "advanced", "industrialized" or even "civilized" on the basis of how we distribute healthcare in this country. The tweeter (who I have never heard of) is absolutely correct. If this current epidemic isn't a case for single-payer health insurance I don't know what is. Even the most cantankerous opponent has yet to suggest any constructive alternatives, other than just they are afraid of the big-bad-gubmint. We trust the government with nuclear missiles and insurance company middle managers with our health - what's wrong with this picture?????????
There, with apologies to the worst of the mixed-metaphors, I was itching to shine light on the elephant in the room and I have finally opened this can of worms
*In another thread TDub mentioned that a lot of people are coming to their jobs at his workplace because they are afraid to lose health insurance. That is no way to run an economy!
It's like being in prison inside a prison. Having advanced cancer while being wary of the COVID-19 virus really sucks. I am speaking both as a doctor and as a person with cancer – since 2016, I have lived with stage 4 lung cancer.
The threat of cancer hangs in the air like a gun to your head. It makes you think about risks and survival odds. It forces you to confront the fact that you may die sooner than you'd imagined.
It's a terror that the coronavirus is only making more palpable. COVID-19 is another reminder of the fragility of our lives. And even if a person with cancer manages to look away from the idea of mortality, the virus will bring it back into view...
Navigating the complex health system and the often inadequate health insurance only adds to the burden of living with the illness.
This epidemic will make the struggle of cancer patients worse. In places where social distancing is recommended, they need to stay home. They may be forced to stop working if they can't work from home, or they may face layoffs. They could end up losing their health insurance.
...As our society faces an illness that is serious and devastating, we, cancer patients, can share a few lessons from dealing with our infirmities. With support and care, you can find the strength to carry on. You keep going, and you give it your best shot. And always try to remember: Today is a gift.
Morhaf Al Achkar is a practicing family physician and a faculty member at the University of Washington. He is the author of Roads to Meaning and Resilience with Cancer.
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
Derek Cressman
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WTF is the DoJ doing?
Detention powers? This is terrifying, and I also struggle to understand what it has to do with a pandemic.
Detention powers? This is terrifying, and I also struggle to understand what it has to do with a pandemic.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Don't know for sure, but reading that the GOP wants $500 Billion for Mnuchin to have a discretionary fund, to distribute as he sees fit.
BTW, the futures market opens in less than 3.5 hours. Care to predict how fast it will limit down if there's no agreement before then?
BTW, the futures market opens in less than 3.5 hours. Care to predict how fast it will limit down if there's no agreement before then?
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
Derek Cressman
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“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
Derek Cressman
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
Derek Cressman
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i’m waiting for someone, DC?, to put a spin on this that it’s been done before when we’ve faced catastrophe
aka...i’m looking for a reason to not be completely floored and pissed that pubs seem to be deliberately attempting to pull the wool over our eyes
aka...i’m looking for a reason to not be completely floored and pissed that pubs seem to be deliberately attempting to pull the wool over our eyes
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All kidding aside, considering how much time senators spend in groups, and considering Rand was in the gym working out with other senators this morning, let's hope Rand doesn't fall ill and didn't manage to transmit the SARS-CoV-2 virus to anyone. Especially when you consider the demographic of so many of the senators.
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
Derek Cressman
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You -- and by "you," I mean ALL of you -- should, on occasion, get out of your bubble.TraditionKU wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:48 pm i’m waiting for someone, DC?, to put a spin on this that it’s been done before when we’ve faced catastrophe
aka...i’m looking for a reason to not be completely floored and pissed that pubs seem to be deliberately attempting to pull the wool over our eyes
For example, you could read this very short thread:
Pelosi's got some pet projects, you see. They need to be taken care of. Also, the small business provisions don't protect Planned Parenthood. Also...
Mnuchin and Trump are ignorant assholes. But only ignorant assholes honestly believe that they're the only ignorant assholes here.
#BITFD
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