who ya got?

[PhDhawk]

you don’t think trump has lowered the bar for presidential behavior?

Trad: "you don’t think trump has lowered the bar for presidential behavior?"

Also Trad: "Stop with the whataboutism! No one cares what Clinton did a hundred years ago!"

and if you're referring to sexual conduct (which i wasn’t), let’s go all the way back to the founding fathers

I think DC's point was pretty clear.

[TDub]

you don’t think trump has lowered the bar for presidential behavior?

No. I think he is the exception, not the rule. One man cannot undo 244 years of bar setting.

Also, thats back to blaming Trump, which Chazz somehow claims he wasnt doing.

Man, you're struggling with this. Since you're stuck on this "blame" thing, I "blame" Trump for me no longer having "eloquent public speaker" as a quality I hope to see in a person I vote for to be President.

It wasn't an attempt to blame Trump for Biden's gaffes. That would be impossible.

How does trumps speaking ability impact the fact that you would like/hope to have an eloquent speaker as president? Trumps a bad speaker so the democrats have to nominate a bad speaker?

And I'm the one struggling with this?

[DCHawk1]

you don’t think trump has lowered the bar for presidential behavior?

Trad: "you don’t think trump has lowered the bar for presidential behavior?"

Also Trad: "Stop with the whataboutism! No one cares what Clinton did a hundred years ago!"

flail much?

lulz

Trad: "you don’t think trump has lowered the bar for presidential behavior?"

Also Trad: "Every president lowered the bar for personal behavior, just not the kind I meant! Keep within my parameters!"

[twocoach]

No. I think he is the exception, not the rule. One man cannot undo 244 years of bar setting.

Also, thats back to blaming Trump, which Chazz somehow claims he wasnt doing.

Man, you're struggling with this. Since you're stuck on this "blame" thing, I "blame" Trump for me no longer having "eloquent public speaker" as a quality I hope to see in a person I vote for to be President.

It wasn't an attempt to blame Trump for Biden's gaffes. That would be impossible.

How does trumps speaking ability impact the fact that you would like/hope to have an eloquent speaker as president? Trumps a bad speaker so the democrats have to nominate a bad speaker?

And I'm the one struggling with this?

JFC, are you still on this?

[TDub]

Man, you're struggling with this. Since you're stuck on this "blame" thing, I "blame" Trump for me no longer having "eloquent public speaker" as a quality I hope to see in a person I vote for to be President.

It wasn't an attempt to blame Trump for Biden's gaffes. That would be impossible.

How does trumps speaking ability impact the fact that you would like/hope to have an eloquent speaker as president? Trumps a bad speaker so the democrats have to nominate a bad speaker?

And I'm the one struggling with this?

JFC, are you still on this?

If you mean responding to your post from 2 hrs ago since I saw it when I logged in, then yes. But nice attempt to deflect since you know you have no other answer. Dumbass.

[twocoach]

How does trumps speaking ability impact the fact that you would like/hope to have an eloquent speaker as president? Trumps a bad speaker so the democrats have to nominate a bad speaker?

And I'm the one struggling with this?

JFC, are you still on this?

If you mean responding to your post from 2 hrs ago since I saw it when I logged in, then yes. But nice attempt to deflect since you know you have no other answer. Dumbass.

I used to want my President to sound intelligent and well spoken. It gave some confidence that an intelligent mind was in charge. Now Trump's blathering has numbed me to it. So I don't get as turned off by a few gaffes by Biden as I probably would have prior to Trump. That's all I was saying. It's no more complicated than that.

[TDub]

Sounds like a personal problem.

[Geezer]

I guess TDub prefers a moron occupy's the White House.

[twocoach]

How does trumps speaking ability impact the fact that you would like/hope to have an eloquent speaker as president? Trumps a bad speaker so the democrats have to nominate a bad speaker?

And I'm the one struggling with this?

JFC, are you still on this?

If you mean responding to your post from 2 hrs ago since I saw it when I logged in, then yes. But nice attempt to deflect since you know you have no other answer. Dumbass.

Look, your desire to bust a deranged Trump hater has you seeing derangement even when it isn't there. You jumped the gun and accused me of something that was simply a dumb assumption on your case. It happens; I have certainly done it as have most people here.

[sdoyel]

[PhDhawk]

that was simply a dumb assumption on your case. It happens; I have certainly done it.

{Nodding in agreement.}

[Deleted User 289]

I'm glad you posted that sdoyle.
I was doing a "conference" Passover with a few family members and I was also watching the President.
I'm hoping God will forgive me.
I was asked a question by my mother and I didn't hear her ask it because I was immersed (is that the right word?) in listening to the President saying those words.
Trump said he doesn't know why Obama didn't support Biden a long time ago and that there is something he feels is wrong and that he thinks he knows what it is but "you" don't know.
What is Trump, a 3 year old?
I don't know the answer to why Obama hasn't endorsed Biden yet. Perhaps Obama was respecting Biden when Biden said, “I want to earn this on my own, I have no doubt when I’m the nominee he’ll be out on the campaign trail for me".
Obama didn't endorse Hillary until June of 2106. Maybe he's not in any hurry to endorse a guy who it seems didn't/doesn't need his endorsement - yet?
Again, I don't know but Donald THINKS he knows. Good for him.
I have a strong feeling if Obama had already endorsed Biden, Trump would have found some fault in that.

Then the President couldn't last 24 hours in terms of being a decent human being towards Biden.
He had to go right back to disrespecting Biden by calling him "Sleepy Joe" when just yesterday the President said he had a wonderful warm phone call with him and Biden said the President was very gracious.
It's amazing that our President feels the need to chastise Governors for RIGHTFULLY saying negative things about him and then fucking admits that unless those Governors kiss his ass he doesn't want our Vice President to speak with them and help the health care workers and the citizens of the United States who are in their state/s.
He is such a despicable piece of shit human being.

[DCHawk1]

I guess TDub prefers a moron occupy's the White House.

I mean...lulz...

[Shirley]

I'm glad you posted that sdoyle.
I was doing a "conference" Passover with a few family members and I was also watching the President.
I'm hoping God will forgive me.
I was asked a question by my mother and I didn't hear her ask it because I was immersed (is that the right word?) in listening to the President saying those words.
Trump said he doesn't know why Obama didn't support Biden a long time ago and that there is something he feels is wrong and that he thinks he knows what it is but "you" don't know.
What is Trump, a 3 year old?
I don't know the answer to why Obama hasn't endorsed Biden yet. Perhaps Obama was respecting Biden when Biden said, “I want to earn this on my own, I have no doubt when I’m the nominee he’ll be out on the campaign trail for me".
Obama didn't endorse Hillary until June of 2106. Maybe he's not in any hurry to endorse a guy who it seems didn't/doesn't need his endorsement - yet?
Again, I don't know but Donald THINKS he knows. Good for him.
I have a strong feeling if Obama had already endorsed Biden, Trump would have found some fault in that.

Then the President couldn't last 24 hours in terms of being a decent human being towards Biden.
He had to go right back to disrespecting Biden by calling him "Sleepy Joe" when just yesterday the President said he had a wonderful warm phone call with him and Biden said the President was very gracious.
It's amazing that our President feels the need to chastise Governors for RIGHTFULLY saying negative things about him and then fucking admits that unless those Governors kiss his ass he doesn't want our Vice President to speak with them and help the health care workers and the citizens of the United States who are in their state/s.
He is such a despicable piece of shit human being.

And yet, Trump's ardent apologists rarely miss an opportunity to try to normalize his behavior.

[Shirley]

[Deleted User 289]

Here is a crazy thought Feral. I know you used the word "ardent" but I have actually been an "apologist" for Trump.
I would guesstimate that it's only 1 out of 1000 things I say about Trump where I am defending him but I have in fact defended him.
I don't believe I have ever tried to "normalize" his behavior other than perhaps if I were to say many/most world leaders tend to have big egos.
BEFORE Trump was elected President I found him to be a vile human being. I sincerely feel that anyone with an ounce of decency who doesn't KNOW (not think - KNOW) he's a vile human being has to be in complete denial and/or completely brainwashed.

[Shirley]

Here is a crazy thought Feral. I know you used the word "ardent" but I have actually been an "apologist" for Trump.
I would guesstimate that it's only 1 out of 1000 things I say about Trump where I am defending him but I have in fact defended him.
I don't believe I have ever tried to "normalize" his behavior other than perhaps if I were to say many/most world leaders tend to have big egos.
BEFORE Trump was elected President I found him to be a vile human being. I sincerely feel that anyone with an ounce of decency who doesn't KNOW (not think - KNOW) he's a vile human being has to be in complete denial and/or completely brainwashed.

Sorry Gutter, but you'll have to try harder if you hope to qualify for nomination to join ATAC, the Ardent Trump Apologists Club.

[seahawk]

I love it that James Carville always wears his LSU stuff.

[Geezer]

[Shirley]