Dumbfuck in charge

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ousdahl wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 11:14 am Americans in All 50 States Agree Their Governors Are Handling Coronavirus Better Than Trump

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04 ... trump.html
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"stable genius" is in prime form today.

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I suppose it could be worse. He could be holding a Coronavirus presser instead of tweeting.











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This is how our "stable genius" decided to start his day addressing the world.....

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sdoyel wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 12:39 am
Serious question: if you are upper management in a Fortune 500 company and you Tweet or say in a televised interview something critical that undermines the position and power of your CEO, how long do you keep your job? If you are a Colonel in the Army and openly question and criticize your Commanding Officer, is there disciplinary action and loss of rank? This is not rocket science.
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Grimm is a career investigator who has served both Republican and Democratic presidents.

Mr. Trump has expressed frustrations with inspectors general, who are appointed across the government to ferret out waste, fraud and abuse within agencies. In April, he fired the intelligence community inspector general.


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HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 8:59 am
sdoyel wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 12:39 am
Serious question: if you are upper management in a Fortune 500 company and you Tweet or say in a televised interview something critical that undermines the position and power of your CEO, how long do you keep your job? If you are a Colonel in the Army and openly question and criticize your Commanding Officer, is there disciplinary action and loss of rank? This is not rocket science.
Cool story but that's not what happened. If I was an internal auditor/inspector for a Fortune 500 company then I would expect that even if my report concluded that there were huge problems at every level of the company that I would not lose my job for doing my job.

The role of an internal auditor/inspector is not to be a cheerleader or a PR spokesperson. It is to identify what happened and to recommend changes to improve the process. We have an entire internal audit department that is constantly putting out recommendations for every level of our organization and they are not fired for doing their job.
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HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 8:59 am
sdoyel wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 12:39 am
Serious question: if you are upper management in a Fortune 500 company and you Tweet or say in a televised interview something critical that undermines the position and power of your CEO, how long do you keep your job? If you are a Colonel in the Army and openly question and criticize your Commanding Officer, is there disciplinary action and loss of rank? This is not rocket science.
Serious answer: If your tweet or interview response was justified and your CEO has integrity - and can admit to fault/s, I would hope you would keep your job indefinitely.
You're right, it isn't rocket science.

As far as your example of being a Colonel and what disciplinary action and loss of rank - I don't have the answer. Maybe it can be found here? https://www.hsdl.org/?view&did=783589 Granted, the "guide" I provided the link to is older than some who post on here.

* EDIT - twocoach gave you a better response than I did.
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twocoach wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 9:19 am
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 8:59 am
sdoyel wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 12:39 am
Serious question: if you are upper management in a Fortune 500 company and you Tweet or say in a televised interview something critical that undermines the position and power of your CEO, how long do you keep your job? If you are a Colonel in the Army and openly question and criticize your Commanding Officer, is there disciplinary action and loss of rank? This is not rocket science.
Cool story but that's not what happened. If I was an internal auditor/inspector for a Fortune 500 company then I would expect that even if my report concluded that there were huge problems at every level of the company that I would not lose my job for doing my job.

The role of an internal auditor/inspector is not to be a cheerleader or a PR spokesperson. It is to identify what happened and to recommend changes to improve the process. We have an entire internal audit department that is constantly putting out recommendations for every level of our organization and they are not fired for doing their job.
Fair enough. Who does the internal auditor send their report to? The company who hired him/her or do they report directly to the national media? Seems like that would be problematic.
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HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 9:32 am
twocoach wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 9:19 am
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 8:59 am

Serious question: if you are upper management in a Fortune 500 company and you Tweet or say in a televised interview something critical that undermines the position and power of your CEO, how long do you keep your job? If you are a Colonel in the Army and openly question and criticize your Commanding Officer, is there disciplinary action and loss of rank? This is not rocket science.
Cool story but that's not what happened. If I was an internal auditor/inspector for a Fortune 500 company then I would expect that even if my report concluded that there were huge problems at every level of the company that I would not lose my job for doing my job.

The role of an internal auditor/inspector is not to be a cheerleader or a PR spokesperson. It is to identify what happened and to recommend changes to improve the process. We have an entire internal audit department that is constantly putting out recommendations for every level of our organization and they are not fired for doing their job.
Fair enough. Who does the internal auditor send their report to? The company who hired him/her or do they report directly to the national media? Seems like that would be problematic.
Now you're just looking for something to complain about. Feel free to provide a link to any story about this specific investigator use an inappropriate method to release their findings. I have not seen any such reports.
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twocoach wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 9:19 am
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 8:59 am
sdoyel wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 12:39 am
Serious question: if you are upper management in a Fortune 500 company and you Tweet or say in a televised interview something critical that undermines the position and power of your CEO, how long do you keep your job? If you are a Colonel in the Army and openly question and criticize your Commanding Officer, is there disciplinary action and loss of rank? This is not rocket science.
Cool story but that's not what happened. If I was an internal auditor/inspector for a Fortune 500 company then I would expect that even if my report concluded that there were huge problems at every level of the company that I would not lose my job for doing my job.

The role of an internal auditor/inspector is not to be a cheerleader or a PR spokesperson. It is to identify what happened and to recommend changes to improve the process. We have an entire internal audit department that is constantly putting out recommendations for every level of our organization and they are not fired for doing their job.
How sad that you even have to explain that. To be so naive about how our government is supposed to work and yet be so strident in your opinions? telling...

Inspectors General are those things like "fiscal responsibility" and "the rule of law" that republicans like Senator Chuck Grassley used to pretend to care about.

A U.S. federal inspector general (IG) is the head of an independent, non-partisan organization established within each executive branch agency assigned to audit the agency’s operation in order to discover and investigate cases of misconduct, waste, fraud and other abuse of government procedures occurring within the agency.

Within the federal agencies are politically independent individuals called Inspectors General who are responsible for ensuring that the agencies operate efficiently, effectively and legally...

The Mission of the Office of Inspector General

Established by the Inspector General Act of 1978, the Office of Inspector General (OIG) examines all actions of a government agency or military organization. Conducting audits and investigations, either independently or in response to reports of wrongdoing, the OIG ensures that the agency's operations are in compliance with the law and general established policies of the government. Audits conducted by the OIG are intended to ensure the effectiveness of security procedures or to discover the possibility of misconduct, waste, fraud, theft, or certain types of criminal activity by individuals or groups related to the agency's operation. Misuse of agency funds or equipment is often revealed by OIG audits.

There are currently 73 offices of US inspectors general, far more than the initial 12 offices created by the Inspector General Act of 1978. Along with administrative staff and several financial and procedural auditors, each office employs special agents—criminal investigators who are often armed.


The work of the IG offices involves detecting and preventing fraud, waste, abuse, and mismanagement of the government programs and operations within their parent agencies or organizations. Investigations conducted by the IG offices may target internal government employees or external government contractors, grant recipients, or recipients of loans and subsidies offered through federal assistance programs.

To help them carry out their investigative role, Inspectors General have the authority to issue subpoenas for information and documents, administer oaths for taking testimony, and can hire and control their own staff and contract personnel. The investigative authority of Inspectors General is limited only by certain national security and law enforcement considerations.

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twocoach wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 9:35 am
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 9:32 am
twocoach wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 9:19 am
Cool story but that's not what happened. If I was an internal auditor/inspector for a Fortune 500 company then I would expect that even if my report concluded that there were huge problems at every level of the company that I would not lose my job for doing my job.

The role of an internal auditor/inspector is not to be a cheerleader or a PR spokesperson. It is to identify what happened and to recommend changes to improve the process. We have an entire internal audit department that is constantly putting out recommendations for every level of our organization and they are not fired for doing their job.
Fair enough. Who does the internal auditor send their report to? The company who hired him/her or do they report directly to the national media? Seems like that would be problematic.
Now you're just looking for something to complain about. Feel free to provide a link to any story about this specific investigator use an inappropriate method to release their findings. I have not seen any such reports.
To be fair, I was not/am not complaining. I was asking for clarification.
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HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 11:43 am
twocoach wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 9:35 am
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 9:32 am

Fair enough. Who does the internal auditor send their report to? The company who hired him/her or do they report directly to the national media? Seems like that would be problematic.
Now you're just looking for something to complain about. Feel free to provide a link to any story about this specific investigator use an inappropriate method to release their findings. I have not seen any such reports.
To be fair, I was not/am not complaining. I was asking for clarification.
www.google.com

I am sure that information is readily available.
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twocoach wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 12:29 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 11:43 am
twocoach wrote: Sun May 03, 2020 9:35 am
Now you're just looking for something to complain about. Feel free to provide a link to any story about this specific investigator use an inappropriate method to release their findings. I have not seen any such reports.
To be fair, I was not/am not complaining. I was asking for clarification.
www.google.com

I am sure that information is readily available.
I see what you did there.

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Well, I have to give Mikey "Head of the Coronavirus Task Force" Pence some credit.
He manned up. After 5-6 days.
Admitted he's clueless.
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