who ya got?

[japhy]

Trump was a cry of desperation, an acknowledgement on the part of a plurality of voters that the last 40-50 years of politics as usual was an abject failure and that something had to be done. Like your pledge chairman Eric Stratton, the American electorate decided that a really futile and stupid gesture had to be done on somebody's part. So...they did it.

The good news is that there is a way to remedy what was done. The bad news is that it puts back to precisely the point we were at when the electorate decided to elect Trump but exacerbates it by putting into office a guy who has been in Washington for the ENTIRE 40-50 years of politics as usual.

I'm not sure why he wants to be president, but, if he wins, I wish him luck.

I would go to court and have Eric represent me in my DUI case any day of the week, which is more than I can say of either of the candidates.

Why anyone would want to be president is a valid question. It is an obvious sign of a significant character flaw. Why the democratic party would promote Hillary parte deux is beyond me; even if you try to explain Biden as Obama redux it makes no sense to me. But I am not the target audience. But if it is the middle of the season and the only quarterback you have in uniform is Mitch Trubisky, I guess you just gotta put the ball in Mitch's hands and hope for the best. But decline his fifth year option.

If Biden wins I wish he retires early and picks his VP wisely.

[chiknbut]

"Trump was a cry of desperation, an acknowledgement on the part of a plurality of voters that the last 40-50 years of politics as usual was an abject failure and that something had to be done."

I get this and understand, by why was Putin so desperate?

[DCHawk1]

Look up the definition of plurality.

Hey, dumdum, between the Republicans who voted for Trump and the Democrats who voted for Bernie, a CLEAR plurality of voters decided "that the last 40-50 years of politics as usual was an abject failure and that something had to be done," -- just like I said.

I'm sorry that your mission here is to try embarrass me by focusing on insignificant details. And I'm even sorrier that every time you try, you wind up embarrassing your stoopid-ass self.

[Deleted User 310]

"Trump was a cry of desperation, an acknowledgement on the part of a plurality of voters that the last 40-50 years of politics as usual was an abject failure and that something had to be done."

I get this and understand, by why was Putin so desperate?

Was Putin actually desperate FOR trump?

Or did he just not like HRC because of his past experience with her/Obama administration?

Didn't "Russia" conduct misinformation campaigns against both candidates?

Maybe the misinformation camaigns were not necessarily to help either candidate.

Is it true to say that we've attempted to interfere in Russia's elections in the past?

[DCHawk1]

Trump was a cry of desperation, an acknowledgement on the part of a plurality of voters that the last 40-50 years of politics as usual was an abject failure and that something had to be done. Like your pledge chairman Eric Stratton, the American electorate decided that a really futile and stupid gesture had to be done on somebody's part. So...they did it.

The good news is that there is a way to remedy what was done. The bad news is that it puts back to precisely the point we were at when the electorate decided to elect Trump but exacerbates it by putting into office a guy who has been in Washington for the ENTIRE 40-50 years of politics as usual.

I'm not sure why he wants to be president, but, if he wins, I wish him luck.

I would go to court and have Eric represent me in my DUI case any day of the week, which is more than I can say of either of the candidates.

Why anyone would want to be president is a valid question. It is an obvious sign of a significant character flaw. Why the democratic party would promote Hillary parte deux is beyond me; even if you try to explain Biden as Obama redux it makes no sense to me. But I am not the target audience. But if it is the middle of the season and the only quarterback you have in uniform is Mitch Trubisky, I guess you just gotta put the ball in Mitch's hands and hope for the best. But decline his fifth year option.

If Biden wins I wish he retires early and picks his VP wisely.

I'm not excited by any of the likely prospects, obviously, but think Klobuchar would be the most tolerable.

But the whole thing depresses me.

[Deleted User 310]

How more people didn't like Amy is beyond me. She was my fave.

[Deleted User 289]

Illini - I would have voted for her over other Democratic Candidates but she would not have been my first choice.
What blows my mind is how Donald Trump won the Republican nomination in 2016 over Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, John Kasich, Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, Mike Huckabee, and Carly Fiorina.
I get why, but it still blows my mind.

[Deleted User 310]

Illini - I would have voted for her over other Democratic Candidates but she would not have been my first choice.
What blows my mind is how Donald Trump won the Republican nomination in 2016 over Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, John Kasich, Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, Mike Huckabee, and Carly Fiorina.
I get why, but it still blows my mind.

I get why trump beat some of those people. I don't understand how he beat some of those people. It blows my mind that donald trump is our president too gutter.

[Geezer]

Trump / Pence 62,984,828
Clinton / Kaine 65,853,514

What were you saying about plurality?

[DCHawk1]

[Deleted User 310]

Trump / Pence 62,984,828
Clinton / Kaine 65,853,514

What were you saying about plurality?

Popular vote doesn't matter. We are 50 individual states. Not 4-5 densely populated cities.

[HouseDivided]

Trump / Pence 62,984,828
Clinton / Kaine 65,853,514

What were you saying about plurality?

Popular vote doesn't matter. We are 50 individual states. Not 4-5 densely populated cities.

Yeah, but Geezer didn’t get his way, so no fair!

[Deleted User 310]

The big cities get to elect their mayors of their city and governors of their states...who have significant power over their states. At times even more power than the president does over their states. Which we've seen in action (both good and bad) during this pandemic.

[TDub]

^^^ Yes. This is true

[TDub]

Trump was a cry of desperation, an acknowledgement on the part of a plurality of voters that the last 40-50 years of politics as usual was an abject failure and that something had to be done. Like your pledge chairman Eric Stratton, the American electorate decided that a really futile and stupid gesture had to be done on somebody's part. So...they did it.

The good news is that there is a way to remedy what was done. The bad news is that it puts back to precisely the point we were at when the electorate decided to elect Trump but exacerbates it by putting into office a guy who has been in Washington for the ENTIRE 40-50 years of politics as usual.

I'm not sure why he wants to be president, but, if he wins, I wish him luck.

I would go to court and have Eric represent me in my DUI case any day of the week, which is more than I can say of either of the candidates.

Why anyone would want to be president is a valid question. It is an obvious sign of a significant character flaw. Why the democratic party would promote Hillary parte deux is beyond me; even if you try to explain Biden as Obama redux it makes no sense to me. But I am not the target audience. But if it is the middle of the season and the only quarterback you have in uniform is Mitch Trubisky, I guess you just gotta put the ball in Mitch's hands and hope for the best. But decline his fifth year option.

If Biden wins I wish he retires early and picks his VP wisely.

This is an example why Amash is going to steal some votes. I believe there are a lot of people that feel this way but who arent going to let trubisky pass.

Biden needs a strong vp who offers something... anything. At this point in the game Biden offers very little.

[Deleted User 289]

Trump / Pence 62,984,828
Clinton / Kaine 65,853,514

What were you saying about plurality?

Popular vote doesn't matter. We are 50 individual states. Not 4-5 densely populated cities.

Context grasshopper. Geezer was posting that in response to something else DC had posted.
I assume he's well aware of what you say.

[twocoach]

My presumption is that Biden is guilty.

And it's true. trump is an existential threat to our country because you elected the petty unstable sociopathic TV personality to piss off the libs and because "maybe he won't be so bad" and now he plays croquet on the front lawn of the White House with the nuclear football, footsy in the Oval Office with Putin and sends supportive tweets to secessionists and white supremacists and antivax nutjobs and creates general chaos whenever he touches anything including the economy. Meanwhile Joe Biden is also another creepy douchebag who gets away with stuff cuz he has money and political power. So, apples and apples.

And now you know, trump can be that bad.

And you continue to support trump because he is an R and because sOcIaLism. And I will vote for Biden because he isn't the antichrist and I would welcome anyone short of that from either party who can remove the crazy shitstain trump from office.

But I mostly hate trump because he is orange, so there's that.

And after Biden is elected if you wanna impeach him, I will not cry that it is a "political act" and complain about how unfair it is. And if you wanna lock Bill Clinton up, that's good too. I think it will be an act of justice and will be happy with that. And trump would still no longer a threat to our country. win/win?

And if trump is reelected, I get my tax cuts and you get dick. Wait, you will "own" the libs for 4 more years.

There really is no difference between our positions, it's all partisan. You will support and make excuses for any Republican who petulantly tries to destroy everything in his path for self aggrandizement and I will vote for any Democrat who does not.

Trump was a cry of desperation, an acknowledgement on the part of a plurality of voters that the last 40-50 years of politics as usual was an abject failure and that something had to be done. Like your pledge chairman Eric Stratton, the American electorate decided that a really futile and stupid gesture had to be done on somebody's part. So...they did it.

The good news is that there is a way to remedy what was done. The bad news is that it puts back to precisely the point we were at when the electorate decided to elect Trump but exacerbates it by putting into office a guy who has been in Washington for the ENTIRE 40-50 years of politics as usual.

I'm not sure why he wants to be president, but, if he wins, I wish him luck.

Or electing Trump was the last gasp effort to find someone to stave off all the losing. Politics has become a team sport for many and no one likes to play on five different losing teams at once.

White? Your team is "losing" as neighborhoods and businesses become more integrated all over the country and people tell you to be OK with it. No one likes being told what to be OK with.

Churchgoers? Your team is "losing" as fewer and fewer choose to believe and more people want the Bible removed as the basis of legislation.

High school educated? Your team is "losing" as fewer and fewer people can begin decent careers without college degrees or advanced intellectual training.

Gun owner? Your team is "losing" as the percentage of households that own guns shrinks and more weapons are looked at unfavorably.

Rural? Your team is "losing" as fewer and fewer people choose to live in rural communities.

Trump just feels like a desperate attempt to get a win with the hopes that he would get five wins by getting rid of the brown people, promoting church, protecting guns while scoring some new jobs for small town America. All whole happily telling the Dems the folks who are losing blame for all their L's to go fuck themselves.

Grifters and con men have been taking advantage of desperate people since the dawn of time. This one was shockingly easy to pull off.

[TDub]

Good golly. Youre pretty proud of yourself arent ya Omaha? What a fucking bullshit post, talk about desperate.

[seahawk]

Which of Twocoaches' reasons for voting for Trump is incorrect?

[ousdahl]

Popular vote doesn't matter. We are 50 individual states. Not 4-5 densely populated cities.

either way, most elections come down to a handful of votes in key swing states.

I wonder if Trump can rile up enough pissed off white folks in the rust belt again.