COVID-19 - On the Ground

[CrimsonNBlue]

Where in my post did I state that the old people should carry on like nothing is wrong. How could you come to that conclusion?

Is this question open to everyone or just the "elites?"

If it's the latter, I'm supposed to take over from here.

[Deleted User 289]

Snooze. Boring. One quick "fly over".

[Deleted User 62]

Snooze. Boring. One quick "fly over".

I never understood why flyovers are such a big deal to people.
Seems like a horrible waste of resources to me.

[sdoyel]

[zsn]

The flyovers are so dumb.

What’s the operating costs of a fighter jet? How many N95 masks per gallon?

I get the sentiment. But those flyovers are also training exercises, which are folded into operational budgets. They're not extra.

One of the B-2 pilots lives not far from me. The B-2 flyovers are actually training bombing runs (precise time-on-target exercises). All computers are 'go' - a specific thing within the stadium is identified as the target.

Couldn't they do it in a simulator now? I am sure that "under the right circumstances" they would train only in simulators and the FAA and the USAF-powers would waive time-critical training requirements. I believe these are "right circumstances". In-home-education math problem: how many unemployed restaurant workers could be paid with the cost of one month's worth of flyovers? I got into it with my sister last week when she used the same argument when the Blue Angels were over the DFW area (her husband works for a defense contractor, so it didn't help ). What does "already paid for" mean? We could not burn all that fuel.......Yes, the salaries are paid but not other expenses. Fly them all you want in f-ing San Diego or Pensacola..........don't tell me you have do all the training all over the US where you have to move all the aircraft and equipment and then get them all back to wherever the Blue Angels are based. I refuse to believe that if we don't do 25-30 shows but only 4 shows somehow the pilots or the aircraft are any less prepared.

While we're at it........GET OFF MY LAWN

[Geezer]

How many miles of THE WALL could be built?

[TDub]

The flyovers are so dumb.

What’s the operating costs of a fighter jet? How many N95 masks per gallon?

I get the sentiment. But those flyovers are also training exercises, which are folded into operational budgets. They're not extra.

One of the B-2 pilots lives not far from me. The B-2 flyovers are actually training bombing runs (precise time-on-target exercises). All computers are 'go' - a specific thing within the stadium is identified as the target.

Couldn't they do it in a simulator now? I am sure that "under the right circumstances" they would train only in simulators and the FAA and the USAF-powers would waive time-critical training requirements. I believe these are "right circumstances". In-home-education math problem: how many unemployed restaurant workers could be paid with the cost of one month's worth of flyovers? I got into it with my sister last week when she used the same argument when the Blue Angels were over the DFW area (her husband works for a defense contractor, so it didn't help ). What does "already paid for" mean? We could not burn all that fuel.......Yes, the salaries are paid but not other expenses. Fly them all you want in f-ing San Diego or Pensacola..........don't tell me you have do all the training all over the US where you have to move all the aircraft and equipment and then get them all back to wherever the Blue Angels are based. I refuse to believe that if we don't do 25-30 shows but only 4 shows somehow the pilots or the aircraft are any less prepared.

While we're at it........GET OFF MY LAWN

Simulators are great. Nothing is like the real thing for preparation. At least thats true in everything Ive done, Im not a bomber pilot though.

[Shirley]

[Deleted User 289]

Great analogy.

I stood along Lake Shore Drive and there were literally 100s if not a 1000 people within 6 blocks (3 blocks north and 3 blocks south) of me.
Big guy standing about 8-10 feet away from me said right after the fly over, "That's it"?
My response, "That's it. How do you think the health care workers feel"?

[MICHHAWK]

Only true internet deviants and malcontents would complain about a flyover.

[jfish26]

I get the sentiment. But those flyovers are also training exercises, which are folded into operational budgets. They're not extra.

One of the B-2 pilots lives not far from me. The B-2 flyovers are actually training bombing runs (precise time-on-target exercises). All computers are 'go' - a specific thing within the stadium is identified as the target.

Couldn't they do it in a simulator now? I am sure that "under the right circumstances" they would train only in simulators and the FAA and the USAF-powers would waive time-critical training requirements. I believe these are "right circumstances". In-home-education math problem: how many unemployed restaurant workers could be paid with the cost of one month's worth of flyovers? I got into it with my sister last week when she used the same argument when the Blue Angels were over the DFW area (her husband works for a defense contractor, so it didn't help ). What does "already paid for" mean? We could not burn all that fuel.......Yes, the salaries are paid but not other expenses. Fly them all you want in f-ing San Diego or Pensacola..........don't tell me you have do all the training all over the US where you have to move all the aircraft and equipment and then get them all back to wherever the Blue Angels are based. I refuse to believe that if we don't do 25-30 shows but only 4 shows somehow the pilots or the aircraft are any less prepared.

While we're at it........GET OFF MY LAWN

Simulators are great. Nothing is like the real thing for preparation. At least thats true in everything Ive done, Im not a bomber pilot though.

It's also the case that simulator work doesn't do a lot for the folks whose jobs are more on the maintenance and logistics side of things. Fine enough for pilots and weapons systems operators, but leaves a big gap.

[Deleted User 289]

Only true internet deviants and malcontents would complain about a flyover.

That's rich - coming from you.
As someone who has watched at least 50 Chicago Air & Water Shows (as well as practices) and who has friends and family members "on the front line" of health care, I believe I am entitled to feel a simple once over "fly over" and the alleged reasoning for it - was lame.
If that makes me a "true internet deviant and malcontent", I'm guilty as charged.
Next.

[MICHHAWK]

Why would you go to a flyover expecting an air show? You wouldn’t.

[PhDhawk]

Only true internet deviants and malcontents would complain about a flyover.

That's rich - coming from you.
As someone who has watched at least 50 Chicago Air & Water Shows (as well as practices) and who has friends and family members "on the front line" of health care, I believe I am entitled to feel a simple once over "fly over" and the alleged reasoning for it - was lame.
If that makes me a "true internet deviant and malcontent", I'm guilty as charged.
Next.

Don't let him bother you gutter. Remember this is the same guy who was elated that government employees weren't getting paid during the shutdown.

[Deleted User 289]

Why would you go to a flyover expecting an air show? You wouldn’t.

I didn't expect an "air show". I expected a flyover. They flew "over". ONE time. I felt it was lame. That's all. Seems you have an issue with that, right? If so, I got it.
It's nice they showed respect to health care workers. Some probably appreciated it. Most probably didn't give a "flying" (pun intended) fuck.

[zsn]

We could not burn all that fuel.......Yes, the salaries are paid but not other expenses. Fly them all you want in f-ing San Diego or Pensacola..........don't tell me you have do all the training all over the US where you have to move all the aircraft and equipment and then get them all back to wherever the Blue Angels are based. I refuse to believe that if we don't do 25-30 shows but only 4 shows somehow the pilots or the aircraft are any less prepared.

Simulators are great. Nothing is like the real thing for preparation. At least thats true in everything Ive done, Im not a bomber pilot though.

It's also the case that simulator work doesn't do a lot for the folks whose jobs are more on the maintenance and logistics side of things. Fine enough for pilots and weapons systems operators, but leaves a big gap.

jfish: note emphasized sections of my post. I realize that a lot of preparedness goes into these sophisticated people and machines. However, gallivanting all over the country wasting all sorts of resources is the best of use, especially now. Again, as I said in my last sentence, do we really need x number of flyovers when <x, at their home bases, would suffice??

Feral found the tweet which best described the situation.

[Geezer]

The pilots need so many hours a month to keep their pilots license.

[MICHHAWK]

On the news last night they were interviewing a group of nurses as they stood in the parking lot of the hospital, watching the fly over in their honor. They could not have been any happier, any more appreciative of the gesture. They loved it.

That’s why they do it. Not to satisfy the internet nutties.

[jhawks99]

My nurse spouse just rolled her eyes.

[Shirley]

My nurse spouse just rolled her eyes.

Yeah, but she likes her steak well done, and Olive Garden.