Trump 2020, the Pandemic, and its Weaponization

[HouseDivided]

Oh, good! I'm sure the people caring for patients without the requisite PPE and tests will take great relief in knowing this.

"We're on the other side of the medical aspect of this."

Donald and Mike might as well appointed Jared Fogle instead of Jared Kushner.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... pply-woes/

I know, right? ‘Cuz old people never died before Trump.

[twocoach]

The new cover of Time:

Nothing like alienating the voters.

The “right way,” according to the “mainstream” media, is to wait 18 more months after a new POTUS has been installed and martial law is firmly in place.

You seem to be reading different mainstream media sites than I am. Or perhaps you're being overly dramatic.

[HouseDivided]

Nothing like alienating the voters.

The “right way,” according to the “mainstream” media, is to wait 18 more months after a new POTUS has been installed and martial law is firmly in place.

You seem to be reading different mainstream media sites than I am. Or perhaps you're being overly dramatic.

Is there such a thing as being preemptively hyperbolic while secretly hoping to be proven wrong? ‘Cause that would be me right now.

[Deleted User 289]

The new cover of Time:

Nothing like alienating the voters.

The “right way,” according to the “mainstream” media, is to wait 18 more months after a new POTUS has been installed and martial law is firmly in place.

Is it wrong for me to assume that you, a seemingly intelligent man, allow the President, and his cronies (family members too), and the "non-mainsteam media", brainwash you to the extent that you feel the mainstream media brainwashes others?
It's one of the advantages I have by being an Independent voter. I get to see and realize that both "sides" are whacked out in regards to what they allow themselves to believe - and not to believe.
I see it in many examples every day.
It's one of the things I am planning on discussing with a psych therapist and small group of other people in the next two hours.

[Shirley]

[jhawks99]

Kentucky is beginning to reopen. We have met the guidelines to do so. Restaurants will open Friday. 33% of capacity, they are asking parties are all from the same household. I think servers are wearing gloves and masks. I can't imagine working a busy shift wearing a mask.

[Deleted User 289]

Kentucky is beginning to reopen. We have met the guidelines to do so. Restaurants will open Friday. 33% of capacity, they are asking parties are all from the same household. I think servers are wearing gloves and masks. I can't imagine working a busy shift wearing a mask.

I have trouble comprehending why states use a percentage of capacity number.
Wouldn't you figure it should be based on size of a dining area more than a seating capacity percentage?
Someone can own a restaurant that has 5,000 square feet of dining area space but normally seats only 250 people and the person next door can have a restaurant that has 2,500 square feet of dinning space but normally seats 300 people. It's not only acceptable but also considered "safer" to have more people in half the space?

OR is the "capacity" number dictated by the local fire department/government/whomever based on the square footage of the dining area?

[PhDhawk]

Kentucky is beginning to reopen. We have met the guidelines to do so. Restaurants will open Friday. 33% of capacity, they are asking parties are all from the same household. I think servers are wearing gloves and masks. I can't imagine working a busy shift wearing a mask.

I have trouble comprehending why states use a percentage of capacity number.
Wouldn't you figure it should be based on size of a dining area more than a seating capacity percentage?
Someone can own a restaurant that has 5,000 square feet of dining area space but normally seats only 250 people and the person next door can have a restaurant that has 2,500 square feet of dinning space but normally seats 300 people. It's not only acceptable but also considered "safer" to have more people in half the space?

OR is the "capacity" number dictated by the local fire department/government/whomever based on the square footage of the dining area?

I believe it's based on fire code numbers which has to do with people per square foot.

[Deleted User 289]

Kentucky is beginning to reopen. We have met the guidelines to do so. Restaurants will open Friday. 33% of capacity, they are asking parties are all from the same household. I think servers are wearing gloves and masks. I can't imagine working a busy shift wearing a mask.

I have trouble comprehending why states use a percentage of capacity number.
Wouldn't you figure it should be based on size of a dining area more than a seating capacity percentage?
Someone can own a restaurant that has 5,000 square feet of dining area space but normally seats only 250 people and the person next door can have a restaurant that has 2,500 square feet of dinning space but normally seats 300 people. It's not only acceptable but also considered "safer" to have more people in half the space?

OR is the "capacity" number dictated by the local fire department/government/whomever based on the square footage of the dining area?

I believe it's based on fire code numbers which has to do with people per square foot.

Thank you! It would obviously make more sense. Regardless if it means some places with the same "capacity" will still seat people closer together than other places.

[HouseDivided]

Nothing like alienating the voters.

The “right way,” according to the “mainstream” media, is to wait 18 more months after a new POTUS has been installed and martial law is firmly in place.

Is it wrong for me to assume that you, a seemingly intelligent man, allow the President, and his cronies (family members too), and the "non-mainsteam media", brainwash you to the extent that you feel the mainstream media brainwashes others?
It's one of the advantages I have by being an Independent voter. I get to see and realize that both "sides" are whacked out in regards to what they allow themselves to believe - and not to believe.
I see it in many examples every day.
It's one of the things I am planning on discussing with a psych therapist and small group of other people in the next two hours.

I don't think anyone is brainwashed. I think the "mainstream" media advances an extremely biased, agenda-driven narrative, and I think the rest of the media, as a reaction, advances a biased, agenda-driven narrative in the other direction. The result is that the truth is very hard to find. As I have said before, I don't like DJT as a person. I don't even think he is a good person, much less the best person for the job. He was, however, the lesser of two evils, and, failing a drastic change of ticket for the DNC, he will be the lesser of the evils again in November. I will always go with the lesser of evils when I have no other options.

[Deleted User 289]

The “right way,” according to the “mainstream” media, is to wait 18 more months after a new POTUS has been installed and martial law is firmly in place.

Is it wrong for me to assume that you, a seemingly intelligent man, allow the President, and his cronies (family members too), and the "non-mainsteam media", brainwash you to the extent that you feel the mainstream media brainwashes others?
It's one of the advantages I have by being an Independent voter. I get to see and realize that both "sides" are whacked out in regards to what they allow themselves to believe - and not to believe.
I see it in many examples every day.
It's one of the things I am planning on discussing with a psych therapist and small group of other people in the next two hours.

I don't think anyone is brainwashed. I think the "mainstream" media advances an extremely biased, agenda-driven narrative, and I think the rest of the media, as a reaction, advances a biased, agenda-driven narrative in the other direction. The result is that the truth is very hard to find. As I have said before, I don't like DJT as a person. I don't even think he is a good person, much less the best person for the job. He was, however, the lesser of two evils, and, failing a drastic change of ticket for the DNC, he will be the lesser of the evils again in November. I will always go with the lesser of evils when I have no other options.

I respect your response and agree (up until you said lesser of two evils) but I do understand why people feel that way.
In terms of voting for the lesser of two evils, as I have said before, I will probably choose not to vote for either Biden or Trump because I don't want either of them to be my President.

[Shirley]

[Deleted User 289]

[twocoach]

The “right way,” according to the “mainstream” media, is to wait 18 more months after a new POTUS has been installed and martial law is firmly in place.

You seem to be reading different mainstream media sites than I am. Or perhaps you're being overly dramatic.

Is there such a thing as being preemptively hyperbolic while secretly hoping to be proven wrong? ‘Cause that would be me right now.

That's just sounds like a justification for "I believe things are a certain way even though I have no actual evidence that supports my belief."

[HouseDivided]

You seem to be reading different mainstream media sites than I am. Or perhaps you're being overly dramatic.

Is there such a thing as being preemptively hyperbolic while secretly hoping to be proven wrong? ‘Cause that would be me right now.

That's just sounds like a justification for "I believe things are a certain way even though I have no actual evidence that supports my belief."

You're entitled to your flawed perception.

[jfish26]

The “right way,” according to the “mainstream” media, is to wait 18 more months after a new POTUS has been installed and martial law is firmly in place.

Is it wrong for me to assume that you, a seemingly intelligent man, allow the President, and his cronies (family members too), and the "non-mainsteam media", brainwash you to the extent that you feel the mainstream media brainwashes others?
It's one of the advantages I have by being an Independent voter. I get to see and realize that both "sides" are whacked out in regards to what they allow themselves to believe - and not to believe.
I see it in many examples every day.
It's one of the things I am planning on discussing with a psych therapist and small group of other people in the next two hours.

I don't think anyone is brainwashed. I think the "mainstream" media advances an extremely biased, agenda-driven narrative, and I think the rest of the media, as a reaction, advances a biased, agenda-driven narrative in the other direction. The result is that the truth is very hard to find. As I have said before, I don't like DJT as a person. I don't even think he is a good person, much less the best person for the job. He was, however, the lesser of two evils, and, failing a drastic change of ticket for the DNC, he will be the lesser of the evils again in November. I will always go with the lesser of evils when I have no other options.

Please walk me through the evils that would have been visited upon this country had Hillary won, and had to deal with a GOP-controlled Senate for her entire term.

I am not a fan.

But...it does not seem plausible that we would have been in worse shape, what with, among many other things: executive oversight demolished; deficit ballooning; international influence in tatters; climate change unaddressed; racial and socioeconomic disparities inflamed.

And that's all without even bringing up the absolutely fucking disastrous job we've done preparing for and weathering a global pandemic.

[Geezer]

cankles

[ousdahl]

Regarding Cankles, I think the right wing media brainwashed psych.

[twocoach]

Regarding Cankles, I think the right wing media brainwashed psych.

<sarcasm>

If you aren't for Team (R) then you're against Team USA, don't ya know?

</sarcasm>

[ousdahl]

rather be a Russian than a democrat.