ha ha ha ha
Yeah ousdahl, it's not Trump promoting a well-known ardent antiSemite, it's you.
Shame on you, oudahl! Shame!
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I have no idea.ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 12:38 pmwhat's your take on the "bloodlines" comment?
just a peculiar word choice not meant to dog whistle?
I juss wish you'd make up yer minds.Feral wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 12:39 pmha ha ha ha
Yeah ousdahl, it's not Trump promoting a well-known ardent antiSemite, it's you.
Shame on you, oudahl! Shame!
White supremacists, i.e., "Aryans", are obsessed with preventing the Jews, et al, from taking over the world and "diluting" their "bloodlines". Trump knew exactly what he was doing, he was talking to his base, the bigots.ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 12:38 pmwhat's your take on the "bloodlines" comment?
just a peculiar word choice not meant to dog whistle?
Because, unlike a normal POTUS, he refuses to have a PR team write and edit his remarks for him. I wish he would, because we would avoid all of the gaffes and misstatements and other silliness that keeps you all in a lather, but we both know that’s not how DJT rolls.
And you call me a conspiracy nut. Lulz.Feral wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 1:07 pmWhite supremacists, i.e., "Aryans", are obsessed with preventing the Jews, et al, from taking over the world and "diluting" their "bloodlines". Trump knew exactly what he was doing, he was talking to his base, the bigots.
one could refuse to have a PR team and still manage to NOT compliment the "good bloodlines" of an antisemite.HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 1:10 pmBecause, unlike a normal POTUS, he refuses to have a PR team write and edit his remarks for him. I wish he would, because we would avoid all of the gaffes and misstatements and other silliness that keeps you all in a lather, but we both know that’s not how DJT rolls.
Yeah, that's still inconsistent.
I think it's a safe bet that, when he's using coded/loaded/whatever phrasing and framing, what you're seeing is him parroting Stephen Miller or Rush Limbaugh or someone else in his ear.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 1:27 pmYeah, that's still inconsistent.
I think he's unquestionably the most "illiterate" president we've ever had. I don't think he knows shit about anyone who isn't named "Trump." I don't think he knows that Ford was an anti-Semite, and I don't think he knows that his phrasing was suspect, and I do think that he would be surprised to learn that anyone had a problem with Henry Ford.
People learn speech -- linguistic patterns, phraseology, etc. -- from their parents, mostly. His parents were of the age, social status, and implicit prejudices of people for whom the use of terms like "bloodlines" probably was not uncommon, i.e. nouveau riche, social-climbing, society-wannabes.
^^^
The WWII vet who lived with us never used a term like "bloodlines" and he was born to "nouveau riche, social-climbing, society-wannabes," but I guess that's only if you consider fishing and drinking with Hemingway as "social climbing". He was a long-time Republican, but made a point his entire life of not adopting his father's racist leanings.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 1:41 pmPeople learn speech -- linguistic patterns, phraseology, etc. -- from their parents, mostly. His parents were of the age, social status, and implicit prejudices of people for whom the use of terms like "bloodlines" probably was not uncommon, i.e. nouveau riche, social-climbing, society-wannabes.
Steve Bannon says "hi".jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 1:31 pmI think it's a safe bet that, when he's using coded/loaded/whatever phrasing and framing, what you're seeing is him parroting Stephen Miller or Rush Limbaugh or someone else in his ear.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 1:27 pmYeah, that's still inconsistent.
I think he's unquestionably the most "illiterate" president we've ever had. I don't think he knows shit about anyone who isn't named "Trump." I don't think he knows that Ford was an anti-Semite, and I don't think he knows that his phrasing was suspect, and I do think that he would be surprised to learn that anyone had a problem with Henry Ford.
Good for him?seahawk wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 1:53 pmThe WWII vet who lived with us never used a term like "bloodlines" and he was born to "nouveau riche, social-climbing, society-wannabes," but I guess that's only if you consider fishing and drinking with Hemingway as "social climbing". He was a long-time Republican, but made a point his entire life of not adopting his father's racist leanings.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 1:41 pmPeople learn speech -- linguistic patterns, phraseology, etc. -- from their parents, mostly. His parents were of the age, social status, and implicit prejudices of people for whom the use of terms like "bloodlines" probably was not uncommon, i.e. nouveau riche, social-climbing, society-wannabes.
Nice try, but no success at that normalizing tactic. Seems like "bloodlines" became more popular at the turn of the 20th Century.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 1:41 pmPeople learn speech -- linguistic patterns, phraseology, etc. -- from their parents, mostly. His parents were of the age, social status, and implicit prejudices of people for whom the use of terms like "bloodlines" probably was not uncommon, i.e. nouveau riche, social-climbing, society-wannabes.