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TraditionKU wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:59 am https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/06/africa/a ... index.html

this has been done with planting practices for crops so as to keep from stripping a single plot of land from all nutrients, so it’s good to see it being done with cattle (although for different reasons)

no mention of the erosive impact cattle have vs natural grazers, though
Interesting that George Washington wrote about small farmers doing a better job with the land than plantation owners, because they grazed their animals and manured their smaller plots, which restored it as contrasted with the quick exhaustion of the soil by the preferred plantation crops.
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So...is weather now climate?

Cuz I read somewhere that that makes you dum.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 11:27 pm So...is weather now climate?

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What gives you that idea?
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No, weather is not climate but obviously you can''t have climate without weather.
I bring this up too often. I have a co-worker who when there is a "below normal" temperature in Chicago she almost always says to me, "Global warming - ha".
Funny that when there is an "above normal" temperature she never says anything.
When I try to explain to her that "Global" means the planet and not just Chicago she doesn't want to understand that concept.
"Global warming" or not, I do believe in "climate change". It's always been natural but I do believe that mankind now plays a role which affects it to a greater degree.
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Feral wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 6:27 am
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 11:27 pm So...is weather now climate?

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What gives you that idea?
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DC doing his best imz impression
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TraditionKU wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 12:40 pm DC doing his best imz impression
At least he was able to make a valid point, whatever it was.
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TraditionKU wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 12:40 pm DC doing his best imz impression
trad doing his best Sean Hannity impression.
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Feral wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 1:47 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 12:40 pm DC doing his best imz impression
At least he was able to make a valid point, whatever it was.
I think it was the opposite of yours, whatever that was.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 2:10 pm
Feral wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 1:47 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 12:40 pm DC doing his best imz impression
At least he was able to make a valid point, whatever it was.
I think it was the opposite of yours, whatever that was.
Since my post was about a heat wave in Siberia, if your post is "the opposite" of mine, that means you're arguing that there isn't a "heat wave" in Siberia.

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Feral wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 2:56 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 2:10 pm
Feral wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 1:47 pm

At least he was able to make a valid point, whatever it was.
I think it was the opposite of yours, whatever that was.
Since my post was about a heat wave in Siberia, if your post is "the opposite" of mine, that means you're arguing that there isn't a "heat wave" in Siberia.

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Actually, mine was the opposite of a post about the weather in Siberia being grist for the mill in the frightening perspective/climate change thread.

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DCHawk1 wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 3:59 pm
Feral wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 2:56 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 2:10 pm

I think it was the opposite of yours, whatever that was.
Since my post was about a heat wave in Siberia, if your post is "the opposite" of mine, that means you're arguing that there isn't a "heat wave" in Siberia.

brilliant
Actually, mine was the opposite of a post about the weather in Siberia being grist for the mill in the frightening perspective/climate change thread.

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Feral wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 4:23 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 3:59 pm
Feral wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 2:56 pm

Since my post was about a heat wave in Siberia, if your post is "the opposite" of mine, that means you're arguing that there isn't a "heat wave" in Siberia.

brilliant
Actually, mine was the opposite of a post about the weather in Siberia being grist for the mill in the frightening perspective/climate change thread.

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Was that a conibear, snare or a deadfall?
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TDub wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 9:51 pm Was that a conibear, snare or a deadfall?
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The image was from a tweet I came upon, but rather than post the tweet which included a link to the article it's from, (since tweets can be problematic), I only posted the image, instead. Here's some context from the article, and its references:

...The temperature departures from average in Siberia this year are some of the highest of any area on Earth. Since January, the region has been running at least 5.4 degrees (3 Celsius) above the long-term average, according to a recent report from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

According to Robert Rohde of Berkeley Earth, which monitors global temperature trends, Russia averaged a temperature anomaly of nearly 11 degrees (6 Celsius) above average for the January to April time period.

“That’s not only a new record anomaly for Russia,” Rhode wrote via Twitter. “That’s the largest January to April anomaly ever seen in any country’s national average.”

The alignment of weather systems is just one side of the coin in a world facing the growing impacts and severity of human-induced climate change.


This period of unusually mild Arctic weather is only the latest of many such episodes in recent years as the region rapidly warms in response to increasing amounts of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. The Arctic as a whole is warming at more than twice the rate of the rest of the world, owing to feedbacks in the climate system, and this is leading to sweeping changes in the way of life for the area’s 4 million residents, as well as a cascade of knock-on effects to ecosystems.

...Such extreme warm intrusions in the Arctic, once rare, are becoming more routine, research has shown. A study published last July found that since 1980, these events are becoming more frequent, longer-lasting and more intense.

“Previously this was not common,” said lead author of the study Robert Graham, from the Norwegian Polar Institute, in an email. “It happened in four years between 1980-2010, but has now occurred in four out of the last five winters.”

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Mean 925 hPa air temperature north of 67N (Arctic Circle) over 1949-2020 (October – February). Temperature reanalysis from NCEP/NCAR R1. Subplot highlights surface air temperature anomalies averaged from October – February 2020 using a 1981-2010 baseline. (Updated 3/4/2020)


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Changes in annual mean Arctic sea ice extent (NSIDC, Sea Ice Index v3) and air temperature anomalies (Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature; BEST) over the satellite era. BEST is available from 1850 to 2019 at http://berkeleyearth.org/data/. Updated 1/21/2020.
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You know what will fix that? Locking everybody up in their houses until mid-November.

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we’ve been, and continue to be duped

or, we just don’t care enough to change the minutiae of or daily lives

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