The Worst People in the World...

[CrimsonNBlue]

Taken into custody, but no charging decisions made yet.

Now officially Murder 3 and Manslaughter.

[Shirley]

Third degree murder is a depraved act, with deliberate indifference to human life.

Max sentence 25 years.

[Shirley]

For 2nd degree there would have to be more evidence of an intent to kill, or extreme recklessness.

[ousdahl]

murder 3 "without intent to effect the death..."

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

at a certain point, what DID the cop intend to do?

[ousdahl]

For 2nd degree there would have to be more evidence of an intent to kill, or extreme recklessness.

if I was the prosecutor I might try to argue that the sustained knee on neck despite the pleas WAS extreme recklessness, or maybe even intent.

[pdub]

I wouldn't try a jury against an officer these days with a murder 1/2.
The previous officer that the attorney defending Chauvin defended was charged with 2nd degree manslaughter and was acquitted.
The dude killed Philando Castile while he sat in his car, cooperating, b/c he 'feared for his life'.

So here the 3rd degree murder seems to be the one to go with.

[CrimsonNBlue]

Stephen Jackson, a former NBA player, was lifelong friends with George Floyd, who died while in custody of the Minneapolis police. Jackson tells TODAY’s Craig Melvin that watching the video of Floyd’s arrest “just destroyed me. I haven’t been the same since I’ve seen it.” He says the violent protests that have taken place in Minneapolis would not be the way Floyd would want his death remembered: “He’d want the people responsible for his death penalized.”

"...One of the things that disturbed me in that video, is you heard him cry out for his mother..."

"...you heard him cry out for his kids..."

SJax made it to Minny. That's Big Kat in the background who just lost his mother to COVID-19.

[ousdahl]

I wouldn't try a jury against an officer these days with a murder 1/2.
The previous officer that the attorney defending Chauvin defended was charged with 2nd degree manslaughter and was acquitted.
The dude killed Philando Castile while he sat in his car, cooperating, b/c he 'feared for his life'.

So here the 3rd degree murder seems to be the one to go with.

yeah, cops never seem to get the book thrown at them.

and no to cases are the same.

Castile had a gun, was in a car, and was cooperating when the cop flipped, fired 7 shots, and that's that, but at least more plausibly fits into the "fear for my life" defense.

Lloyd was unarmed, had been searched and in police custody, handcuffed faced down on the ground, and pleaded for his life for several minutes. How is that cop gonna argue that he feared for his life?

[EmployedOusdahl]

For 2nd degree there would have to be more evidence of an intent to kill, or extreme recklessness.

if I was the prosecutor I might try to argue that the sustained knee on neck despite the pleas WAS extreme recklessness, or maybe even intent.

if I was the prosecutor, that would mean that I stayed in law school.

[pdub]

Wow, what is this, Sock Friday?

[ousdahl]

For 2nd degree there would have to be more evidence of an intent to kill, or extreme recklessness.

if I was the prosecutor I might try to argue that the sustained knee on neck despite the pleas WAS extreme recklessness, or maybe even intent.

if I was the prosecutor, that would mean that I stayed in law school.

bro you need this to be your avatar

[Shirley]

I wouldn't try a jury against an officer these days with a murder 1/2.
The previous officer that the attorney defending Chauvin defended was charged with 2nd degree manslaughter and was acquitted.
The dude killed Philando Castile while he sat in his car, cooperating, b/c he 'feared for his life'.

So here the 3rd degree murder seems to be the one to go with.

yeah, cops never seem to get the book thrown at them.

and no to cases are the same.

Castile had a gun, was in a car, and was cooperating when the cop flipped, fired 7 shots, and that's that, but at least more plausibly fits into the "fear for my life" defense.

Lloyd was unarmed, had been searched and in police custody, handcuffed faced down on the ground, and pleaded for his life for several minutes. How is that cop gonna argue that he feared for his life?

Not to mention how hard it is to say you feared for your life when you have your hands in your pockets while you constantly adjust your weight to keep your knee on Floyd's neck with as much force as possible.

[ousdahl]

for real.

not that previous cases of cops killing people of color haven't been egregious, but this one just seems particularly so.

I kind of wonder what prosecuting a cop to the fullest extent of the law would do.

but rather than say, "we want to make an example of this one in an attempt to discourage future police brutality," they were still reluctant to even arrest.

[ousdahl]

Wow, what is this, Sock Friday?

all I wanna say is, since my sock is the employed one then will someone remind him rent is due Monday?

[ousdahl]

[shindig]

I miss the days of Obama as the POTUS....

[ChalkRocker]

Wow, what is this, Sock Friday?

Is Illy posting a lot?

[EmployedOusdahl]

guys? those fish aren't going to catch themselves.

[Shirley]

I miss the days of Obama as the POTUS....

^^^ x 1,000

[Deleted User 89]

if I was the prosecutor I might try to argue that the sustained knee on neck despite the pleas WAS extreme recklessness, or maybe even intent.

if I was the prosecutor, that would mean that I stayed in law school.

bro you need this to be your avatar

potd

(unless you’re talking to yourself...in which case, gtfo)