George Floyd and the Ensuing Protests

[sdoyel]

Read this thread:

[seahawk]

This response in the comments seems on target.

I think I’m still just going to vote for the one who didn’t tell me to drink bleach.

[twocoach]

Read this thread:

Pretty amazing. So much for DC's "cops just need better training" theory.

This link from that thread was particularly unsettling.

[TDub]

Who is walrus. I cant keep up

[twocoach]

Here's a thread reader link to the Twitter thread if interested.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1272 ... 66976.html

[Walrus]

Interesting.



"White people can't have an opinion on black issues"

"If you're white and you're silent on this black issue, you're a problem"

[Deleted User 310]

Interesting.



"White people can't have an opinion on black issues"

"If you're white and you're silent on this black issue, you're a problem"

Those statements aren't as contradictory as they sound....

First part: don't tell black people your opinion of THEIR black experience or THE black experience. Listen. Self reflect. Learn. Grow.

Second part: help amplify their voice by listening, supporting and using your platform/voice (whatever that may be) to get THEIR message heard...but do it for the right reasons.

(Just my opinion, not speaking for anyone, but that is how I interpret those 2 statements)

As far as the video they say interesting things that many people are saying. Don't center everything on whiteness. Makes sense to me. They're right, white people whining on social media about their privilege is cringe worthy at times when they center EVERYTHING on themselves/their whiteness and completely ignore the real points of whatever racial topic is at hand. It is cringeworthy when I see attempted alyship (spelling?) that is all self-righteous and self-serving, while making little to no actual difference in real life.

It is not about cutting your legs off so you're without legs too...it is about giving legs to those without legs so that we all have legs. (If that makes sense, he used that example in the video sort of)

[Walrus]

As far as the video they say interesting things that many people are saying.

Maybe, but not many on here are saying.

[Deleted User 310]

As far as the video they say interesting things that many people are saying.

Maybe, but not many on here are saying.

True...but there are only 25ish people here and I think almost all are white (maybe all?).

[imzcount]

It's 2020. White people can't win.

[ousdahl]

poor, poor white people.

[defixione]

It's 2020. White people can't win.

Triggered!! White people have only been suffering for six months out of the last four hundred years.

[twocoach]

It's 2020. White people can't win.

This is a joke, right?

[sdoyel]

Wasn’t sure where to post this, but take a look at this thread.

[Deleted User 289]

I'm wondering how many times us White people have had issues with the police because of the color of our skin. I actually have - ONCE. Was on the West Side of Chicago and was accused of being there to buy drugs. Explained I was there to visit a friend. Cop didn't believe me. I'll spare you the rest of the story.


The video I am sharing below and my words could (and probably should) go on a number of other threads. I feel the video was pretty powerful. Especially after hearing 3 different stories a couple of weeks ago.
Brief synopsis of each story.....

Story 1. Harvard educated Black Man. Lived in New York. Numerous times has been "profiled" ONLY because of the color of his skin. Actually harassed. Usually followed by an excuse of it was "mistaken identity". Very rarely apologized to. One time was told they thought he was a murder suspect. They pushed him up against a wall at gunpoint while a cop frisked him. BEFORE asking him for identification.

Story 2. Black man grew up in Shaker Heights Ohio. Was a young child during the Hough riots (look it up). Father was Doctor. Black Panthers actually escorted his father from their home to his office to protect him knowing that his father was one of the only doctors who would willingly work and treat other Black people during that time. Went to Washington University in St. Louis. Had Black roommates in a nice apartment in a "nice" area. Neighbors often called the police accusing them of breaking in to their own home. Got to the point where a couple of neighbors admitted they did it for their enjoyment/entertainment.

Story 3. Successful Black man well trained to the point of being an "expert" in several forms of Martial Arts. Just last year.....Was with his wife and another couple in Martha's Vineyard and was pulled over by two young White cops at night. Was accused of driving while intoxicated. Had NOT been drinking. Very rarely drinks. Cops told him to step out of the car. Didn't want to and at first refused but his wife was terrified so he did. Was taught at an early age to respect the cops no matter what and do not show any emotion no matter how unfair they are being and how upset he is. Cops started to give him a field sobriety test. Then for their own amusement had him do degrading things.
Got to the point where they told him to hop up and down on on leg and dance around in a circle and they were cracking up laughing at him. He said he was confident without their having guns in a citizen vs. citizen situation, he could have destroyed the both of them. Said it took a lot of restraint for him not to do it even though they had guns and were cops. Finally he had enough. Told them as such in a stern manner while his wife was hysterically frightened and the other couple were yelling at him and the cops to stop.
Finally ended when he told them they had two choices. Let him go or arrest him RIGHT NOW. They let him go. To this day, he still doesn't know why they didn't lie and accuse him of doing something he didn't do. Like has happened to him multiple times in the past.

[Walrus]

This ought be interesting.

[twocoach]

I'm wondering how many times us White people have had issues with the police because of the color of our skin. I actually have - ONCE. Was on the West Side of Chicago and was accused of being there to buy drugs. Explained I was there to visit a friend. Cop didn't believe me. I'll spare you the rest of the story.


The video I am sharing below and my words could (and probably should) go on a number of other threads. I feel the video was pretty powerful. Especially after hearing 3 different stories a couple of weeks ago.
Brief synopsis of each story.....

Story 1. Harvard educated Black Man. Lived in New York. Numerous times has been "profiled" ONLY because of the color of his skin. Actually harassed. Usually followed by an excuse of it was "mistaken identity". Very rarely apologized to. One time was told they thought he was a murder suspect. They pushed him up against a wall at gunpoint while a cop frisked him. BEFORE asking him for identification.

Story 2. Black man grew up in Shaker Heights Ohio. Was a young child during the Hough riots (look it up). Father was Doctor. Black Panthers actually escorted his father from their home to his office to protect him knowing that his father was one of the only doctors who would willingly work and treat other Black people during that time. Went to Washington University in St. Louis. Had Black roommates in a nice apartment in a "nice" area. Neighbors often called the police accusing them of breaking in to their own home. Got to the point where a couple of neighbors admitted they did it for their enjoyment/entertainment.

Story 3. Successful Black man well trained to the point of being an "expert" in several forms of Martial Arts. Just last year.....Was with his wife and another couple in Martha's Vineyard and was pulled over by two young White cops at night. Was accused of driving while intoxicated. Had NOT been drinking. Very rarely drinks. Cops told him to step out of the car. Didn't want to and at first refused but his wife was terrified so he did. Was taught at an early age to respect the cops no matter what and do not show any emotion no matter how unfair they are being and how upset he is. Cops started to give him a field sobriety test. Then for their own amusement had him do degrading things.
Got to the point where they told him to hop up and down on on leg and dance around in a circle and they were cracking up laughing at him. He said he was confident without their having guns in a citizen vs. citizen situation, he could have destroyed the both of them. Said it took a lot of restraint for him not to do it even though they had guns and were cops. Finally he had enough. Told them as such in a stern manner while his wife was hysterically frightened and the other couple were yelling at him and the cops to stop.
Finally ended when he told them they had two choices. Let him go or arrest him RIGHT NOW. They let him go. To this day, he still doesn't know why they didn't lie and accuse him of doing something he didn't do. Like has happened to him multiple times in the past.

The only time my skin color was a topic with the police was when I was walking back to my car after a Detroit Tigers game at the old Tigers Stadium in the mid 80's. We were parked a long way from the stadium so there were very few people around us and a police officer pulled up to us and said "you white boys need to clear out of here asap. I dont want to be up all night filling out paperwork. You shouldn't be out here."

[Walrus]

Bret Weinstein made a great point today:

"If we're sacrificing individuals because a mob has decided they are guilty, we aren't America anymore"

[Deleted User 62]

Bret Weinstein made a great point today:

"If we're sacrificing individuals because a mob has decided they are guilty, we aren't America anymore"

We haven't been America for quite a while.

[twocoach]

Bret Weinstein made a great point today:

"If we're sacrificing individuals because a mob has decided they are guilty, we aren't America anymore"

But if we sacrifice some individuals so Walrus can have a cheeseburger then we're 'Murica!