Football Politics

[pdub]

Post about politics here if you must.
Ideally, start a new thread on the poli-bored.

[Cascadia]

Bro, I think you might need the time out. Your making a mountain out of a molehill here.

[pdub]

For me, racism, and/or the discussion of how to solve it, is of course politics.
It has been since the establishment of governments - how to treat people - what rights people have.
It's why people should vote for change.
It's why people are protesting. Much of it justly so.

There are heated opinions by all in the country about the topic ( and many other topics ) of racism.

You might not agree with it - but here ( and it's very tough in this environment ) posts related to politics ( and yes, I'm the judge of this, so there's disagreement ) i'd like to keep on the poli-bored.

I will never delete a post ( unless it's offensive ) but I will move it to the appropriate thread/bored.

[Cascadia]

For me, racism, and/or the discussion of how to solve it, is of course politics.

No.


But that’s what racists want you to believe

[jfish26]

For me, racism, and/or the discussion of how to solve it, is of course politics.
It has been since the establishment of governments - how to treat people - what rights people have.
It's why people should vote for change.
It's why people are protesting. Much of it justly so.

There are heated opinions by all in the country about the topic ( and many other topics ) of racism.

You might not agree with it - but here ( and it's very tough in this environment ) posts related to politics ( and yes, I'm the judge of this, so there's disagreement ) i'd like to keep on the poli-bored.

I will never delete a post ( unless it's offensive ) but I will move it to the appropriate thread/bored.

Shut up and dribble, in other words.

[pdub]

Reverting to calling ( or inferring ) someone racist who differs in opinion ( and probably in this case, you have no idea how much I agree or disagree with you ) is remedial and tiresome.

[Deleted User 318]

As racism is not a political topic, I will instead talk about football players that have gone into politics.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/119 ... -politics

1. Byron "Whizzer" White

Byron "Whizzer" White was one of the most prolific NFL running backs despite only playing in the NFL for such a short time—yet his biggest impact would come well after his NFL career was over.

White was an All-American running back at the University of Colorado who was drafted with the fourth pick in the first round by the Pittsburgh Pirates (now the Steelers). In his rookie season with the Pirates, White would lead the league in rushing with 567 yards on 152 attempts and four touchdowns, while also passing for 393 yards and two touchdowns.

I've never heard of this guy.

2. Heath Shuler

One of the few NFL rules I used to live by went like this: high draft pick plus prolonged holdout equals future NFL bust. Heath Shuler is definitely an embodiment of this rule as he held out of Redskins training camp for 13 days prior to his rookie season before signing an eight-year, $19.25 million contract—which at the time was the highest contract ever signed by a rookie.

I know Heath Ledger, and the Shuler name sounds very footbally, but I don't know this guy.

3. Lynn Swann

When you think of Lynn Swann, many things come to mind as a football fan. You think of his four Super Bowl rings, three Pro Bowl appearances, a Super Bowl MVP in Super Bowl X, an array some of the greatest catches not just in the 70's, but of all-time (including this Super Bowl X gem) as well as his support of social conservative issues such as the pro-life cause and gun-ownership rights.

Wait, what?

Lynn Swann hasn't held an elected office yet, but he does have his aspirations. In 2006, Swann ran against then-incumbent Pennsylvania Governor (and Eagles Fan and analyst on Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia) Ed Rendell.

I love Swanny! But he never has been elected to anything, so he sounds like a looser.

4. Alan Page

He is dignified, accomplished, and someone who has managed to excel in two fields. But saying that would still be selling Alan Page short.

Page played 15 seasons in the NFL, the majority of them with the Minnesota Vikings. In that time, he went to the Super Bowl four times with the Vikings, won the 1971 NFL MVP award, was a nine-time Pro Bowl selection, a six-time NFL All-Pro, 1970 NFL Defensive Player of The Year and a Hall of Famer.

This sounds like a white guy. But never heard of him.

5. Sam Wyche

Forgive me, Clevelanders, if I offend any of you with this video. Sorry, but to this day I still find it hilarious. If you choose, feel free to replace "Cleveland" with my hometown of Miami and let the laughter ensue.

This speech to Bengals fans might not have given many the impression that Bengals coach Sam Wyche would one day have a career in politics; however, that's exactly what came to pass.

Best name. Worst city.

6. Steve Largent

Steve Largent is one of the most accomplished wide receivers in NFL history.

The seven-time Pro Bowler and eight-time NFL All-Pro receiver at one point held virtually every receiving record in the NFL and became the first Seahawk to have his number retired. He's also a member of the NFL's all-1980s team.

After an NFL career like that, most players either sit back and enjoy retirement, or become talking heads on TV.

But Largent instead decided to serve in Congress. In 1994, Largent ran for Oklahoma's first district in the House of Representatives as a Republican. He won that election, garnering 63 percent of the vote in the predominantly Republican district, which includes Tulsa. In fact, Largent won every election while serving as a representative with at least 62 percent of the vote.

Wow! This guy sounds like a stud! Never heard of him.

7. Craig James

Many of you know Craig James as a college football analyst at ESPN whose son was caught in a controversy that lead to the dismissal of Coach Mike Leach from his post as Head Coach at Texas Tech.

However, James had a brief NFL run where he made a huge mark.

He was the leading rusher for the New England Patriots in 1985 when he rushed for 1,227 yards and lead the Patriots to Super Bowl XX. James was the last white NFL running back to rush for more than 1,000 yards until 2010 when Peyton Hillis reached that mark.

This name reminds me of Daniel Craig, who plays James Bond. I don't follow British politics.

8. Jon Runyan

Jon Runyan will go down in NFL history for many things.

He was the last active NFL player to play for the Houston Oilers—who drafted him in the fourth round in 1996. He was also an NFL All-Pro selection in 1999, a Pro Bowler in 2002 and was named to the Philadelphia Eagles 75th anniversary team.

Great NFL name! Don't remember him. I do miss the Oilers. I think GQ does too.

9. Peter Boulware

One of the most imposing forces on an imposing defense, Peter Boulware showed opposing offenses he meant business while playing for the Baltimore Ravens from 1997-2005.

During that time, Boulware was the Defensive Rookie of the Year, a four-time Pro Bowler, an NFL All-Pro and a Super Bowl champion.

After retiring in 1997, Boulware hoped to find similar success in politics.

Boulware sounds like cheap dishes 19-year-olds would register for

10. Jack Kemp

One of the players with the biggest impact in both the worlds of football and politics is the late Jack Kemp.

Kemp was originally drafted in the 17th round of the 1957 draft by the Detroit Lions, but was cut by the team prior to the season. He would serve on the taxi squads for the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1957 and the New York Giants in 1958. After that, Kemp served a year as a private in the United States Army Reserves, but would play one game in the CFL for the Calgary Stampeders.

I hope you stayed for this one! I had no idea Kemp ever played in the NFL. Really cool.

[jfish26]

Alan Page!

[pdub]

Jumping to extremes is a strong point for a lot of posters here.
There's no gray area.
You are either in full support or you are 'insert shaming comment'.

[twocoach]

What on earth is this hot mess?

[ousdahl]

^^^

It’s not like anyone did something truly heinous, like kneel.

[Deleted User 318]

What on earth is this hot mess?

There were six posts in the Chefs topic about booing of the unity gesture at the beginning of the games. pDub chimed in. We also chimed in on pDub's take. pDub then said we shouldn't talk about politics. We said calling out racism isn't politics, regardless, it happened before the Chefs game, thus we should talk about. Pdub tried to move a bunch of posts into a new topic. Some of us disagree. I found out Jack Kemp played in the NFL.

[Deleted User 289]

As racism is not a political topic, I will instead talk about football players that have gone into politics.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/119 ... -politics

1. Byron "Whizzer" White

Byron "Whizzer" White was one of the most prolific NFL running backs despite only playing in the NFL for such a short time—yet his biggest impact would come well after his NFL career was over.

White was an All-American running back at the University of Colorado who was drafted with the fourth pick in the first round by the Pittsburgh Pirates (now the Steelers). In his rookie season with the Pirates, White would lead the league in rushing with 567 yards on 152 attempts and four touchdowns, while also passing for 393 yards and two touchdowns.

I've never heard of this guy.

2. Heath Shuler

One of the few NFL rules I used to live by went like this: high draft pick plus prolonged holdout equals future NFL bust. Heath Shuler is definitely an embodiment of this rule as he held out of Redskins training camp for 13 days prior to his rookie season before signing an eight-year, $19.25 million contract—which at the time was the highest contract ever signed by a rookie.

I know Heath Ledger, and the Shuler name sounds very footbally, but I don't know this guy.

3. Lynn Swann

When you think of Lynn Swann, many things come to mind as a football fan. You think of his four Super Bowl rings, three Pro Bowl appearances, a Super Bowl MVP in Super Bowl X, an array some of the greatest catches not just in the 70's, but of all-time (including this Super Bowl X gem) as well as his support of social conservative issues such as the pro-life cause and gun-ownership rights.

Wait, what?

Lynn Swann hasn't held an elected office yet, but he does have his aspirations. In 2006, Swann ran against then-incumbent Pennsylvania Governor (and Eagles Fan and analyst on Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia) Ed Rendell.

I love Swanny! But he never has been elected to anything, so he sounds like a looser.

4. Alan Page

He is dignified, accomplished, and someone who has managed to excel in two fields. But saying that would still be selling Alan Page short.

Page played 15 seasons in the NFL, the majority of them with the Minnesota Vikings. In that time, he went to the Super Bowl four times with the Vikings, won the 1971 NFL MVP award, was a nine-time Pro Bowl selection, a six-time NFL All-Pro, 1970 NFL Defensive Player of The Year and a Hall of Famer.

This sounds like a white guy. But never heard of him.

5. Sam Wyche

Forgive me, Clevelanders, if I offend any of you with this video. Sorry, but to this day I still find it hilarious. If you choose, feel free to replace "Cleveland" with my hometown of Miami and let the laughter ensue.

This speech to Bengals fans might not have given many the impression that Bengals coach Sam Wyche would one day have a career in politics; however, that's exactly what came to pass.

Best name. Worst city.

6. Steve Largent

Steve Largent is one of the most accomplished wide receivers in NFL history.

The seven-time Pro Bowler and eight-time NFL All-Pro receiver at one point held virtually every receiving record in the NFL and became the first Seahawk to have his number retired. He's also a member of the NFL's all-1980s team.

After an NFL career like that, most players either sit back and enjoy retirement, or become talking heads on TV.

But Largent instead decided to serve in Congress. In 1994, Largent ran for Oklahoma's first district in the House of Representatives as a Republican. He won that election, garnering 63 percent of the vote in the predominantly Republican district, which includes Tulsa. In fact, Largent won every election while serving as a representative with at least 62 percent of the vote.

Wow! This guy sounds like a stud! Never heard of him.

7. Craig James

Many of you know Craig James as a college football analyst at ESPN whose son was caught in a controversy that lead to the dismissal of Coach Mike Leach from his post as Head Coach at Texas Tech.

However, James had a brief NFL run where he made a huge mark.

He was the leading rusher for the New England Patriots in 1985 when he rushed for 1,227 yards and lead the Patriots to Super Bowl XX. James was the last white NFL running back to rush for more than 1,000 yards until 2010 when Peyton Hillis reached that mark.

This name reminds me of Daniel Craig, who plays James Bond. I don't follow British politics.

8. Jon Runyan

Jon Runyan will go down in NFL history for many things.

He was the last active NFL player to play for the Houston Oilers—who drafted him in the fourth round in 1996. He was also an NFL All-Pro selection in 1999, a Pro Bowler in 2002 and was named to the Philadelphia Eagles 75th anniversary team.

Great NFL name! Don't remember him. I do miss the Oilers. I think GQ does too.

9. Peter Boulware

One of the most imposing forces on an imposing defense, Peter Boulware showed opposing offenses he meant business while playing for the Baltimore Ravens from 1997-2005.

During that time, Boulware was the Defensive Rookie of the Year, a four-time Pro Bowler, an NFL All-Pro and a Super Bowl champion.

After retiring in 1997, Boulware hoped to find similar success in politics.

Boulware sounds like cheap dishes 19-year-olds would register for

10. Jack Kemp

One of the players with the biggest impact in both the worlds of football and politics is the late Jack Kemp.

Kemp was originally drafted in the 17th round of the 1957 draft by the Detroit Lions, but was cut by the team prior to the season. He would serve on the taxi squads for the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1957 and the New York Giants in 1958. After that, Kemp served a year as a private in the United States Army Reserves, but would play one game in the CFL for the Calgary Stampeders.

I hope you stayed for this one! I had no idea Kemp ever played in the NFL. Really cool.

6 degrees of ChicagoHawk......
Justice White came to my camp to speak. We were too young to appreciate him.
Alan Page was friends with my Uncle. As nice and respectful as a guy could be.

[Deleted User 318]

Alan Page!

Ah, I had to look him up because I thought I missed something. I see you two have a common thread with education.

[pdub]

NiceDC's synopsis is pretty good - except i'd add, 'we shouldn't ( or more, i'd prefer/i'm asking not to ) talk about politics on this thread/bored'.

I created this thread to keep this kind of discussion ( hot mess ) out of future Chiefs threads.
Just like I would on KU basketball or any other sports bored.

[ousdahl]

I just don’t think Mitch Lightfoot is gonna get big minutes this season.

[twocoach]

^^^

It’s not like anyone did something truly heinous, like kneel.

Except the guy that did. Honestly, I have no problem with a few people booing. If they just want football with no politics or they were simply people who any time an opposing team is on the field, it's their right to voice their opinion even if I disagree with it. No different than the right to protest. It's the way things are and should be. It saddens me that the notion of "unity" brings boos but the people in the stadium were probably the least informed as to what was happening and why so it's just not a big deal to me.

To expect their to be no opposition to what went on before the game would be silly when we're at the point where everything has vocal opponents these days. Such is the divisive world that Trump has made much, much worse.

[ousdahl]

Ok, so I pay little attention to nfl.

I know that a big big part of even having sports during a pandemic and race roits - at least with the nba - was that the sport was gonna be used to emphasize issues of justice and equality.

Did the nfl follow suit at all?

I’m pretty sure they did. They had a moment of unity. They have “VOTE” displayed prominently between the goal posts.

I’m pretty sure it’s the sports themselves that want to inject these issues into the sports.

[Deleted User 318]

It was the teams that were doing it, not the league. Sounds like Goodell is just going to let the teams do what they want before games, so you are probably going to see some teams very vocal, and some being more passive. And pDub won't let us talk about any of it.

[Deleted User 310]

It was the teams that were doing it, not the league. Sounds like Goodell is just going to let the teams do what they want before games, so you are probably going to see some teams very vocal, and some being more passive. And pDub won't let us talk about any of it.

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