Lord of the Rubes - The Tax Cut Chapter

[Deleted User 310]

Hmm. I’ll say, most of the developed world besides us.

Why do you apparently think, according to the definition you provided, that “the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole” would be a bad thing?

You’d prefer to double down on having it be owned and regulated by a small handful of greedy 1 percenters?

I don't think everything should be equal for everyone. And i don't think the rich should pay for the lazy to be lazy.

You really think the greedy 1 percenters are to blame for your lack of success?

And fwiw there are not any good countries that are 100% socialist. You're confusing having socialist programs with being a socialist country imo.

[Deleted User 310]

and I’m not advocating for a complete overthrow of capitalism, just for enough socialist policies peppered in to make it worthwhile for everyone.

Let’s change the corporate model to benefit all the stakeholders, not just the shareholders.

And you think the government is the best/only way to achieve that?

[Deleted User 310]

The idea that this country isn't worthwhile for everyone while other countries are is sort of silly (pretty much an outright lie).

The idea that ousdahl doesn't think he has a fair shot to make a livable wage due to corporate structure is hilarious. The same guy who constantly complains about whichever job he has and hates being hassled with early check ins.

Do the wealthy need to pay more? Sure. Do we need socialism to achieve that? No.

[Cascadia]

Illy just isn’t smart. Nice person. Not smart

[ousdahl]

Illy bro, the wealthy paying more IS socialism.

And if not for gummint policies, you really think we’re gonna achieve that if we just leave it up to the capitalists?

[MICHHAWK]

The thing about the kids is, they eventually grow up. Get a job. Move out of their parents basement. Get married. Have a family.

Today’s socialists are tomorrow’s conservatives.

[Deleted User 310]

Illy bro, the wealthy paying more IS socialism.

No it's not.

[ousdahl]

What is it, then?

[Cascadia]

What is it, then?

Illy just isn’t smart. Nice person. Not smart

[Deleted User 310]

Not socialism.

A progressive tax model?

Honestly, to no surprise of anyone i am sure, i am completely lost on what you think socialism actually is and means.

[ousdahl]

If only we had someone post a definition of as much...

[Cascadia]

I know illy will never read a book to educate himself, but he’s an article that might help.

https://www.yesmagazine.org/democracy/2 ... rstanding/

[Deleted User 310]

I know illy will never read a book to educate himself, but he’s an article that might help.

https://www.yesmagazine.org/democracy/2 ... rstanding/

I will read it.

Wish it was a book on tape. Or a youtube vid. But i will check it out.

[Deleted User 89]

The thing about the kids is, they eventually grow up. Get a job. Move out of their parents basement. Get married. Have a family.

Today’s socialists are tomorrow’s conservatives.

says every conservative old person, ever

keep saying dumb shit...the laughs are good

[Deleted User 310]

I am curious to see if there are more socialism cosigners for ousdahl other than cascadia.

[Cascadia]

I’m not advocating for socialism, just pointing out that you (and most anti-socialists) don’t know what socialism actually is. You’ve just been conditioned to believe it’s a bad thing.


Aka, the boogeyman

[Deleted User 89]

I am curious to see if there are more socialism cosigners for ousdahl other than cascadia.

did either of them say they are in favor of all out socialism?

[MICHHAWK]

Everyone is a socialist while they are suppling the teet. Then mom and dad separate them. And all of a sudden they are not.

[Deleted User 89]

personally, i like have the Forest Service, National Parks system, National Interstate Highway system, being able to pick up the phone and dial 911, and even the armed forces most of the time (among a myriad of other things that everyone’s tax dollars subsidize)

[ousdahl]

Illy, rather than label this as “socialism,” would you prefer to use a term more like “worker’s rights?”

Cuz also bear in mind, “radical” is a relative term too.

Depending on whom you ask, “winner take all economics in which the ones at the top hoard wealth while the workers who helped them succeed live paycheck to paycheck” could sound pretty radical, too.