Million Maga March

Ugh.
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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:20 pm
Grandma wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:44 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:08 pm

Strange you didn't mention antifa was part of the equation. 🤔🙄
They were?
According to whom? Our President?
To him anyone who is against him is either "RADICAL LEFT" or "ANTIFA".
If it was Antifa who got in the faces of the Proud Boys - good for them. They have my support 100% - in that regard.
According to the video the twocoach posted and numerous articles about the clashes that occured.
In other words, "unconfirmed" sources?
The video doesn't show me that the people clashing with the "Proud Boys" are Antifa and I am yet to read numerous articles stating they were identified as Antifa. My guess is you didn't read "numerous articles" either. Don't get me wrong, they very well may have been Antifa but I hope people don't pretend their assumptions are facts.
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saw it on twitter, so must be true
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Grandma wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:28 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:20 pm
Grandma wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:44 pm

They were?
According to whom? Our President?
To him anyone who is against him is either "RADICAL LEFT" or "ANTIFA".
If it was Antifa who got in the faces of the Proud Boys - good for them. They have my support 100% - in that regard.
According to the video the twocoach posted and numerous articles about the clashes that occured.
In other words, "unconfirmed" sources?
The video doesn't show me that the people clashing with the "Proud Boys" are Antifa and I am yet to read numerous articles stating they were identified as Antifa. My guess is you didn't read "numerous articles" either. Don't get me wrong, they very well may have been Antifa but I hope people don't pretend their assumptions are facts.
The video also doesn't show that they're proud boys by that criteria (so you're just assuming they're proud boys)....but it is pretty obvious who each group is in the many videos floating around out there....and not all trump supporters in those videos are "proud boys", but oh well.

All the people i see fighting in those videos are assholes. I don't care which side they identify with.
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I encourage the white supremists and the anarchists to gather frequently and beat the hell out of each other. Toss in blm and you got the trifecta.
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so telling that you equate blm with those other groups

do you try to be a piece of shit, or does it come naturally?

it’s amazing, your ilk posts garbage like that and then cry victim when you get called out
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Ya the true BLM supporters do not deserve to be lumped in with proud boys or antifa. That is for sure.

And also worth noting that very few of the true BLM supporters approve of the looting and violence. Quite the opposite actually. In my city when we had BLM marches it was the BLM supporters who were stopping the fringe supporters from vandalizing and looting shit.
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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:37 pm
Grandma wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:28 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:20 pm

According to the video the twocoach posted and numerous articles about the clashes that occured.
In other words, "unconfirmed" sources?
The video doesn't show me that the people clashing with the "Proud Boys" are Antifa and I am yet to read numerous articles stating they were identified as Antifa. My guess is you didn't read "numerous articles" either. Don't get me wrong, they very well may have been Antifa but I hope people don't pretend their assumptions are facts.
The video also doesn't show that they're proud boys by that criteria (so you're just assuming they're proud boys)....but it is pretty obvious who each group is in the many videos floating around out there....and not all trump supporters in those videos are "proud boys", but oh well.

All the people i see fighting in those videos are assholes. I don't care which side they identify with.
Sometime it's ok to admit you're clueless/ignorant.
The video doesn't show that they are Proud Boys? Really? You sure about that?
Dumb question. Of course you're not. Let me guess, you have no fucking clue what Proud Boy symbols are. Do you?
Let me help you, several people in the video are wearing things with Proud Boys symbols on them.
So you're right about one thing - I am "assuming'' people who are not Proud Boys wouldn't wear Proud Boys shit identifying themselves as Proud Boys.

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Grandma wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:15 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:37 pm
Grandma wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:28 pm

In other words, "unconfirmed" sources?
The video doesn't show me that the people clashing with the "Proud Boys" are Antifa and I am yet to read numerous articles stating they were identified as Antifa. My guess is you didn't read "numerous articles" either. Don't get me wrong, they very well may have been Antifa but I hope people don't pretend their assumptions are facts.
The video also doesn't show that they're proud boys by that criteria (so you're just assuming they're proud boys)....but it is pretty obvious who each group is in the many videos floating around out there....and not all trump supporters in those videos are "proud boys", but oh well.

All the people i see fighting in those videos are assholes. I don't care which side they identify with.
Sometime it's ok to admit you're clueless/ignorant.
The video doesn't show that they are Proud Boys? Really? You sure about that?
Dumb question. Of course you're not. Let me guess, you have no fucking clue what Proud Boy symbols are. Do you?
Let me help you, several people in the video are wearing things with Proud Boys symbols on them.
So you're right about one thing - I am "assuming'' people who are not Proud Boys wouldn't wear Proud Boys shit identifying themselves as Proud Boys.

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Several people are also dressed in traditional antifa atire....people can be heard screaming "fuck you antifa".

It is okay to admit you're clueless/ignorant/(in denial for whatever reason)...Of course it was antifa "members" fighting with the "proud boys" AND trump supporters in general. That is what antifa does.


What a stupid fucking argument.
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This is why much of BLM doesn't get down with a lot of the left antifa movement. Antifa has sort of hijacked the narrative. Now BLM gets lumped in with antifa when they don’t associate or support antifa in many/most instances.

Antifa is mostly a bunch of white people. They may be well intentioned in theory, but they often go looking for a fight and engage in more of the vandalism and destruction that the true BLM leaders/movement vocally try to distance themselves from.
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#bothsides

And what is traditional antifa atire?

And you realize antifa is short for “anti-fascist.” Why is the “fuck you antifa” crowd pro-fascism?
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Why do the anti-facists act like facists?
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ousdahl wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:14 pm And what is traditional antifa atire?
Don't be stupid. You know exactly what it is.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/styl ... shion.html

"Like other protest movements dating back to Cold War era West German anarchists, Antifa supporters will often dress all in black, sometimes covering their faces with masks or helmets so they can’t be identified by opposing groups or the police. It's an intimidating tactic – known as a "black bloc" – which also allows them to move together as one anonymous group. There are also offshoots - one Antifa group in Oregon said they also have a "snack bloc" of people who provide food and water for their allies during protests."
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I voted for Biden.
I have seen videos of Trump supporters being "attacked" yesterday. Not just the complete asshole Trump supporters who were antagonists but some Regular Joe the Plummers who were doing nothing but walking down a street. I in NO WAY condone that behavior from the anti-Trumpers. It's shameful and those people deserve to be called out.
Meanwhile, our piece of shit President has a son who posted a video of a Trump supporter actually committing a crime (spitting in someone's face) and that person freaked out and crashed their car.
Jr. said, "karmas a bitch" and added laughing emojis.
That my friends is one of many reasons why I despise the Trump klan. They are just horrible human beings.
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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:18 pm Why do the anti-facists act like facists?
How so
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I didn’t know antifa had costumes, but thanks for the info.

I too condone no violence or malicious behavior.

But I admittedly am curious about these snack blocs, hook me up some munchies!
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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:10 pm
Grandma wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:15 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:37 pm
The video also doesn't show that they're proud boys by that criteria (so you're just assuming they're proud boys)....but it is pretty obvious who each group is in the many videos floating around out there....and not all trump supporters in those videos are "proud boys", but oh well.

All the people i see fighting in those videos are assholes. I don't care which side they identify with.
Sometime it's ok to admit you're clueless/ignorant.
The video doesn't show that they are Proud Boys? Really? You sure about that?
Dumb question. Of course you're not. Let me guess, you have no fucking clue what Proud Boy symbols are. Do you?
Let me help you, several people in the video are wearing things with Proud Boys symbols on them.
So you're right about one thing - I am "assuming'' people who are not Proud Boys wouldn't wear Proud Boys shit identifying themselves as Proud Boys.

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Several people are also dressed in traditional antifa atire....people can be heard screaming "fuck you antifa".

It is okay to admit you're clueless/ignorant/(in denial for whatever reason)...Of course it was antifa "members" fighting with the "proud boys" AND trump supporters in general. That is what antifa does.


What a stupid fucking argument.

"Traditional antifa attire"?
I honestly admit my ignorance. What is "traditional antifa attire"? You mean people were wearing black? So were the Proud Boys. So were the police. So I should assume the Proud Boys and the cops are Antifa too because they were wearing black clothing?

People could be heard screaming "fuck you Antifa" - OK, If I yelled fuck you Nazi at you - would that mean you're a Nazi?

Look, I didn't ever say it wasn't Antifa that was clashing with the Proud Boys - did I?
In fact my exact words were - "Don't get me wrong, they very well may have been Antifa but I hope people don't pretend their assumptions are facts".
Meanwhile, you said - "The video also doesn't show that they're proud boys by that criteria".
I pointed out you're wrong. That's all. So what? We've all been wrong at times.

The "stupid fucking argument" is that I can accept your not understanding what I am saying to you but it seems you don't want to understand what I am saying to you.
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IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:14 pm
This is why much of BLM doesn't get down with a lot of the left antifa movement. Antifa has sort of hijacked the narrative. Now BLM gets lumped in with antifa when they don’t associate or support antifa in many/most instances.

Antifa is mostly a bunch of white people. They may be well intentioned in theory, but they often go looking for a fight and engage in more of the vandalism and destruction that the true BLM leaders/movement vocally try to distance themselves from.
Hey everybody - PAY ATTENTION! Our resident Antifa expert is educating us.
I feel so fortunate!
Thank you Illi!
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Mjl wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:31 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:18 pm Why do the anti-facists act like facists?
How so
He has no idea. He's just repeating what he hears from his tumper friends
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Mjl wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:31 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:18 pm Why do the anti-facists act like facists?
How so
https://reason.com/2017/08/22/choose-si ... -and-fasc/

Take a side? You bet. But Haider and company are trying to force a false choice. They'd have you believe that advocates of free speech, open society, tolerance, and peaceful political change have to pick between fascists with tiki torches and masked "anti-fascists" clashing with them in the streets. But advocates of a free, open, and liberal society are a side—the correct side—and the left-wing and right-wing thugs battling in the streets are nothing more than rival siblings from a dysfunctional illiberal family.

In June, James Hodgkinson opened fire on Republican members of Congress gathered for a baseball practice. That the supporter of Occupy Wall Street and former Bernie Sanders volunteer sent six people, including Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA), to the hospital instead of the morgue was a consequence not of better intentions than his soulmate, Fields, but rather a result of fortunately bad aim.

Before that, left-wing protesters violently shut down a Middlebury College speech by Charles Murray, injuring Professor Alison Stanger in the process, rioted over a speech by professional provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, and forced the cancellation of a Republican parade in Portland, Oregon, with promises that "the police cannot stop us from shutting down roads." They boast of their contempt for free speech.

Right-wing and left-wing mobs seem to have a few preferred Thunderdome venues where they set up regular fight-club dates. "For reasons political and geographic, Berkeley has become a particularly common battleground," reports the Los Angeles Times. "They will glom themselves onto a tax day rally, a Trump rally, but there is a subgroup of extremists on both sides who are angling for a street battle," said criminal sociologist Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at Cal State San Bernardino.
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