COVID-19 - On the Ground

[Deleted User 289]

and crazy that “essential worker” can be anything from an ER nurse to a dispensary budtender.

But not school teachers.

Really? They're not? Hmm, sure about that guy?

You still haven't responded to my calling you out on your lie yesterday. Go figure.

[TDub]

I'm not sure there's a better (realistic) way to do it, but "congratulations, seniors, at-risk and essential workers, your reward is to be the guinea pigs for healthy, relatively young people!" is quite a thing.

Ain’t no law that says you have to take it. Don’t want it. Don’t take it.

Not unless you want to buy something from ticketmaster or fly on Qantas.

List will be increasing...

[CrimsonNBlue]

Also, if natural immunity after contracrion is months(?) How will the vaccine be better? (Genuine question)

Need both.

[sdoyel]

Sounds like the vaccine will kick our butts for a couple days...

[jfish26]

and crazy that “essential worker” can be anything from an ER nurse to a dispensary budtender.

But not school teachers.

Where exactly is a schoolteacher not considered an essential worker?

[CrimsonNBlue]

I'm not sure there's a better (realistic) way to do it, but "congratulations, seniors, at-risk and essential workers, your reward is to be the guinea pigs for healthy, relatively young people!" is quite a thing.

Ain’t no law that says you have to take it. Don’t want it. Don’t take it.

Not unless you want to buy something from ticketmaster or fly on Qantas.

List will be increasing...

Right. In the US, the market will have to decide for US Citizens.

I'm very much in favor of airlines, large venues, etc. saying "show me your proof or we're not serving you." And, I can't wait for all the bitching and moaning about "mah rights."

[jfish26]

I'm not sure there's a better (realistic) way to do it, but "congratulations, seniors, at-risk and essential workers, your reward is to be the guinea pigs for healthy, relatively young people!" is quite a thing.

Ain’t no law that says you have to take it. Don’t want it. Don’t take it.

Should someone who refuses to wear a seatbelt be deprioritized for emergency care in the case of a huge accident?

I don't know the answer to that question. It's a hard one.

But at some point, we have ethical and moral obligations to look out for each other, not just ourselves.

I believe the phrase is "fuck your feelings."

[Deleted User 289]

and crazy that “essential worker” can be anything from an ER nurse to a dispensary budtender.

But not school teachers.

Where exactly is a schoolteacher not considered an essential worker?

You probably won't get an answer from him.
The guy takes no accountability for all the WRONG things that he posts.
He has Donald Trump disease.

[MICHHAWK]

and crazy that “essential worker” can be anything from an ER nurse to a dispensary budtender.

But not school teachers.

Where exactly is a schoolteacher not considered an essential worker?

Pretty much everywhere where remote and online learning is taking place rather than in-person.

[Deleted User 89]

I'm not sure there's a better (realistic) way to do it, but "congratulations, seniors, at-risk and essential workers, your reward is to be the guinea pigs for healthy, relatively young people!" is quite a thing.

the mrs. and i had a conversation related to this

the other aspect is from more of an evolutionary perspective, in that were protecting those that have little bearing on our future (the elderly) first

[CrimsonNBlue]

But not school teachers.

Where exactly is a schoolteacher not considered an essential worker?

Pretty much everywhere where remote and online learning is taking place rather than in-person.

Dumbest shit ever.

[Deleted User 89]

But not school teachers.

Where exactly is a schoolteacher not considered an essential worker?

Pretty much everywhere where remote and online learning is taking place rather than in-person.

dumb

[jfish26]

But not school teachers.

Where exactly is a schoolteacher not considered an essential worker?

Pretty much everywhere where remote and online learning is taking place rather than in-person.

Your mind is diseased. You're comparing apples and tire irons.

[TDub]

Ain’t no law that says you have to take it. Don’t want it. Don’t take it.

Not unless you want to buy something from ticketmaster or fly on Qantas.

List will be increasing...

Right. In the US, the market will have to decide for US Citizens.

I'm very much in favor of airlines, large venues, etc. saying "show me your proof or we're not serving you." And, I can't wait for all the bitching and moaning about "mah rights."

Ehh. Not sure I like that approach. In this instance I might lean towards Oussies favorite people (tho, in reality I won't because Im not going anywhere this year most likely). Can we at least test this on a large scale (no, 60k peopke is not a large scale) and wait a year or two before we start forcing it on society?


When China's Xi is leading the charge on something tbat could be used nefariously or oppressively....it makes me a bit apprehensive

[jfish26]

I'm not sure there's a better (realistic) way to do it, but "congratulations, seniors, at-risk and essential workers, your reward is to be the guinea pigs for healthy, relatively young people!" is quite a thing.

the mrs. and i had a conversation related to this

the other aspect is from more of an evolutionary perspective, in that were protecting those that have little bearing on our future (the elderly) first

Sure - there is a grim practicality to the prioritization. Certainly someone's decreased Covid survival expectation (because of age and/or other risk factors) plays into their tolerance for the risk of the vaccine.

[Deleted User 89]

not sure what you’re getting at, Tdub, but china has zero to do with any vaccine we’re likely to have available in the US

[TDub]

Im also. Not sure that oppressively is a word...pretty sure its not...but ya get the idea

[TDub]

not sure what you’re getting at, Tdub, but china has zero to do with any vaccine we’re likely to have available in the US

Yea its not the vaccine its the requirong of a vaccine to participate in society. Hes pushing this whole global code thing that identifies people as covid vaccinated or not. I cant remember exatcly what it was called...it was basically a golbal health QR code per individual

[CrimsonNBlue]

Not unless you want to buy something from ticketmaster or fly on Qantas.

List will be increasing...

Right. In the US, the market will have to decide for US Citizens.

I'm very much in favor of airlines, large venues, etc. saying "show me your proof or we're not serving you." And, I can't wait for all the bitching and moaning about "mah rights."

Ehh. Not sure I like that approach. In this instance I might lean towards Oussies favorite people (tho, in reality I won't because Im not going anywhere this year most likely). Can we at least test this on a large scale (no, 60k peopke is not a large scale) and wait a year or two before we start forcing it on society?


When China's Xi is leading the charge on something tbat could be used nefariously or oppressively....it makes me a bit apprehensive

Sure, I understand that many are going to disagree with my views on it and the reasons why. And my thoughts on societal/personal freedoms as a whole.

I personally would rather fly an airline that's following Qantas's lead and would feel much safer having had to fly domestically during COVID. International travel barriers have taken a large toll on my house. Ready for a return and it seems the private sector will step up to meet that.

[jfish26]

Right. In the US, the market will have to decide for US Citizens.

I'm very much in favor of airlines, large venues, etc. saying "show me your proof or we're not serving you." And, I can't wait for all the bitching and moaning about "mah rights."

Ehh. Not sure I like that approach. In this instance I might lean towards Oussies favorite people (tho, in reality I won't because Im not going anywhere this year most likely). Can we at least test this on a large scale (no, 60k peopke is not a large scale) and wait a year or two before we start forcing it on society?


When China's Xi is leading the charge on something tbat could be used nefariously or oppressively....it makes me a bit apprehensive

Sure, I understand that many are going to disagree with my views on it and the reasons why. And my thoughts on societal/personal freedoms as a whole.

I personally would rather fly an airline that's following Qantas's lead and would feel much safer having had to fly domestically during COVID. International travel barriers have taken a large toll on my house. Ready for a return and it seems the private sector will step up to meet that.

Not to mention, assuming the federal government does not give corporations immunity from suit, travel and hospitality businesses really should adopt common-sense requirements in order to protect themselves.