ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:22 am
This is arguably necessary, but ugh, what a precedent.
Who’s ready for lawmakers to be trigger happy about the 25th for everything from tan suits to mustard?
If "incites a violent occupation of the Capital" is the new precedent, I am OK with that. If Biden does the same thing at any point, I would also be OK with the 25th being used to remove him from office.
This went WAYYYYY over the line of partisan pissing and screaming.
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:55 pm
I’ll go out on a limb and guess certain politicians are weighing any constitutionally responsible action, against the perceived risk to their own political careers?
That has been happening since the creation of politicians.
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:51 pm
It was less than a year ago that we told Trump is was A-OK to use the powers of the office for personal gain. In the last week, he has, using the powers of his office, solicited election fraud and incited/aggravated an attack on the federal government and its execution of the laws of the country.
What are we doing, if this isn't the situation in which we should have a lever to remove a president?
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:40 pm
The man had a great first 3 years.
lol, no
good people in both sides
pressuring ukraine to dig up dirt in the bidens
birtherism
etc.
Baby steps Trad. Everything else he said there was something I’d never thought I would hear Mich say.
i guess
it’s really no different than so many elected pubs all of a sudden growing a spine...it’s good to see, but unimpressive given the coddling and complicity they’ve demonstrated since 2016
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:22 am
This is arguably necessary, but ugh, what a precedent.
Who’s ready for lawmakers to be trigger happy about the 25th for everything from tan suits to mustard?
If "incites a violent occupation of the Capital" is the new precedent, I am OK with that. If Biden does the same thing at any point, I would also be OK with the 25th being used to remove him from office.
This went WAYYYYY over the line of partisan pissing and screaming.
Also, we have a 240 year history of constantly increasing the power of the executive branch beyond what is in the constitution.
Keeping the executive branch in check would be a good thing. Knowing that you are not an all powerful king would be a good thing for any and all future presidents.
“The capitol had been breached...no word on whether it’s Trump supporters, or actually Antifa and BLM thugs starting the trouble...
this is not good (mentioned in passing), but it’s what real patriots do when they get tired of being lied to by the gummint (mentioned with emphasis)...
(Again in passing) this is not how we should go about this, but (again the emphasized part) there are legit election fraud concerns were trying to address. These are real too, not fake, like the Russia investigation...
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MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:40 pm
The man had a great first 3 years. The 4th not so much. 2020 got away from him. As it did many people. 2020 was not our friend.
They should relieve him of his duties.
Inciting sedition happened in 2021, in case you hadn’t noticed. BTW, 2021 hasn’t been different than 2015, or any of the intervening years. It’s just that some people finally found religion on the Road to Damascus
I watched some Fox News to see how they were covering it.
It was acceptable - they were shocked/upset/not supporting what the domestic terrorists were doing.