I would understand walking away with your health and your youth, if you're 33-35 and have a half-billion dollars.pdub wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:32 am "Playing into someone's 40's will also become a thing of the past."
With advancements in medicine, nutrition, and the protections they give to QB's - I don't agree.
For average older QB's, sure, but for the elite, I don't see why they wouldn't play into their 40's.
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Considering also he had a weird kneecap dislocation, turf toe, a "concussion", fractured wrist at Tech and a legit concussion while at Tech.
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Also partial to fast food and ketchup.
More seriously, agree with fish, though. I wouldn't want to play that game in my 40's if I didn't have to.
More seriously, agree with fish, though. I wouldn't want to play that game in my 40's if I didn't have to.
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Yeah. If you have half a billion, are a part owner of a baseball team and you have low cost of living by being in KC, why not quit before it gets to be too late.
These guys are wired differently though, man. They are competitors at heart.
These guys are wired differently though, man. They are competitors at heart.
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exactlyNewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:05 am These guys are wired differently though, man. They are competitors at heart.
Brady, Favre, Manning...
none of them, by any stretch, needed to play as long as they did
they WANTED to
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Yes.
Mahomes already is known to be hyper competitive.
Bienemy joked that he was a 'competitive prick' even outside of football.
If Mahomes is say 38 and has 5 titles, and has a solid team around him, I don't think he stops.
Mahomes already is known to be hyper competitive.
Bienemy joked that he was a 'competitive prick' even outside of football.
If Mahomes is say 38 and has 5 titles, and has a solid team around him, I don't think he stops.
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With the exception of maybe Brady because of his celebrity, Mahomes is and is going to be a lot richer than those guys.
And then it's just a completely different generation. Millennial football players are retiring earlier than their predecessors. That might also go back to money.
And then it's just a completely different generation. Millennial football players are retiring earlier than their predecessors. That might also go back to money.
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If you've made half a billion at 33 then you're likely leaving at least that much more on the table by walking away at that age. Tough sell if you're feeling healthy and competent.jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:43 amI would understand walking away with your health and your youth, if you're 33-35 and have a half-billion dollars.pdub wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:32 am "Playing into someone's 40's will also become a thing of the past."
With advancements in medicine, nutrition, and the protections they give to QB's - I don't agree.
For average older QB's, sure, but for the elite, I don't see why they wouldn't play into their 40's.
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Favre earned 125 million.
Manning 250.
Just from football alone - sans any endorsements.
I don't think money was driving Favre or Manning.
I don't think with this contract, money will be driving Mahomes anymore.
Manning 250.
Just from football alone - sans any endorsements.
I don't think money was driving Favre or Manning.
I don't think with this contract, money will be driving Mahomes anymore.
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I'm not saying he should, or seems likely to, walk away. I just would totally understand pulling your chips off the table - picking your brain out of a blender - at a certain point.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:28 amIf you've made half a billion at 33 then you're likely leaving at least that much more on the table by walking away at that age. Tough sell if you're feeling healthy and competent.jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:43 amI would understand walking away with your health and your youth, if you're 33-35 and have a half-billion dollars.pdub wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:32 am "Playing into someone's 40's will also become a thing of the past."
With advancements in medicine, nutrition, and the protections they give to QB's - I don't agree.
For average older QB's, sure, but for the elite, I don't see why they wouldn't play into their 40's.
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I had more injuries than that in my teens and 20s and I wasn't getting paid to play a sport. That's just life if you play hard and push yourself. None of those things are life changers. If he gets a half dozen concussions in a short amount of time then it's a conversation to have.NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:53 am Considering also he had a weird kneecap dislocation, turf toe, a "concussion", fractured wrist at Tech and a legit concussion while at Tech.
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Sure, I'd get it. Just as a understand a low to mid tier player quitting even though he hasn't made generational wealth. I won't risk my head health for nothing any more like I used to but I'd do it for generational wealth.jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:30 amI'm not saying he should, or seems likely to, walk away. I just would totally understand pulling your chips off the table - picking your brain out of a blender - at a certain point.
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Mahomes is going to make a shitload of money after retirement.
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Half a dozen!?
According to studies, once you have 3 concussions it's going to have an effect on your lasting health. A half a fucking dozen, get outta here.
He's had 1 concussion, I believe. I don't think he had one last week. I think he got choked, stood up too fast while he was still out of it, and once you stumble, it's considered a concussion according to NFL.
According to studies, once you have 3 concussions it's going to have an effect on your lasting health. A half a fucking dozen, get outta here.
He's had 1 concussion, I believe. I don't think he had one last week. I think he got choked, stood up too fast while he was still out of it, and once you stumble, it's considered a concussion according to NFL.
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I don't think he had a concussion either.
I don't think these once in a generation players are in it for the money - they don't need to be - they are good enough that the money will be there.
Glory, history, legend.
I don't think these once in a generation players are in it for the money - they don't need to be - they are good enough that the money will be there.
Glory, history, legend.
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He already kind of is. Between his contract and his Oakley, State Farm and adidas deals, he's making some serious bank on endorsements alone. Enough to pay for his somewhat modest house in the middle of KC.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:34 am Mahomes is going to make a shitload of money after retirement.
He's such a sports nerd that he's going to invest some money into more sports franchises and things regarding sports. He'll take on a greater role in the Royals ownership, I think. Hell, he probably will have some say in the Chiefs ownership and whatnot.
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Media suddenly big fans of Chiefs again.
ESPN did early predictions by their writers for the Super Bowl and Chiefs outnumbered Bucs 10-2 in picks. 1 of the Bucs picks was by their beat writer for ESPN, so a bit skewed, but still. That's quite interesting how a dominating win like that reminds people what the Chiefs can be.
I said about halfway through the season that the AFC winner had a big leg up on the NFC in Super Bowl because the AFC was just so much better. Still true today.
ESPN did early predictions by their writers for the Super Bowl and Chiefs outnumbered Bucs 10-2 in picks. 1 of the Bucs picks was by their beat writer for ESPN, so a bit skewed, but still. That's quite interesting how a dominating win like that reminds people what the Chiefs can be.
I said about halfway through the season that the AFC winner had a big leg up on the NFC in Super Bowl because the AFC was just so much better. Still true today.
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Yes, he's not walking away from football and then won't earn anything. Will make as much as anyone post-football (save for maybe Romo) with his endorsements. And then you have the obvious life tradeoffs between not playing NFL and playing NFL.NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:39 amHe already kind of is. Between his contract and his Oakley, State Farm and adidas deals, he's making some serious bank on endorsements alone. Enough to pay for his somewhat modest house in the middle of KC.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:34 am Mahomes is going to make a shitload of money after retirement.
He's such a sports nerd that he's going to invest some money into more sports franchises and things regarding sports. He'll take on a greater role in the Royals ownership, I think. Hell, he probably will have some say in the Chiefs ownership and whatnot.
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Chiefs are way better than all, but both NFC teams looked like they are better than the Bills.NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:48 amI said about halfway through the season that the AFC winner had a big leg up on the NFC in Super Bowl because the AFC was just so much better. Still true today.
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I agree that the Bills were the 4th best team to play yesterday. And yet they still had 13 wins on the year and had looked decent in the playoffs.
Also think they could have ran out of gas with playing 3 straight games while Chiefs had some breaks in there.
Also think they could have ran out of gas with playing 3 straight games while Chiefs had some breaks in there.
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