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Yeah. I already said it, but Dave shouldn’t be shooting from further than Dok range.

Make power moves moving toward the basket, not finesse moves moving away from it.
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I can't agree.
He has more in his arsenal than Dok range.
He's leading us in FG% in B12 play and he is a very good FT shooter, so that's another sign he can hit from some range.

When the shots present themselves, he should take them, including 15 foot 'jumpers', but definitely if he's double teamed, or pressured early in the shot clock, he shouldn't be taking fade away jumpers, which he's been known to do.

It'd also help if the passes he makes out of the post to open perimeter shooters actually resulted in threes.
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PhDhawk wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:02 pm The best indicator of what type of game dave is going to have is how deep his post position is.
Yep. You can almost always tell when he's going to make a shot before he even catches the ball.

I think part of it is he gets hurried up and it will cause bad positioning and footwork. He has become pretty great when he does the work before he catches--it's more often a make. He needs to do a better job of realizing when he's in a low percentage position and reset.
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ousdahl wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:05 pm Yeah. I already said it, but Dave shouldn’t be shooting from further than Dok range.

Make power moves moving toward the basket, not finesse moves moving away from it.
I'm OK with him taking a couple of jumpers per game if he catches the ball already facing the basket. Of course that is also dependent on the game situation.
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A couple a game if he’s already facing the basket...you mean free throws?

But yeah, a couple a game is ok I guess, as long as it’s in the flow of the game and not an often and early option.

Still, dude is 260+ and built to bully, but instead he plays like he thinks he’s Dirk.

Heck, just for the sake of discussion, why not have Dave taking a couple 3’s a game?

He’s already swished the one he tried, they’re worth more points than his midrange shots, he seems to like playing out more than in, and it would open up all the space for everybody else?
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Man, he has really good footwork when he slows down in the post. He can't be shooting 10 foot fadeaways. But I'm ok with an in rhythm jumper from 10-15. He'll knock it down at a good rate.
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it’s the turn-around or quick face-up jumpers that are the problem...those that he tends to fade away on. these are usually on the baseline.

the elbow-extended ones he seems to shoot a higher percentage on
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:14 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:05 pm Yeah. I already said it, but Dave shouldn’t be shooting from further than Dok range.

Make power moves moving toward the basket, not finesse moves moving away from it.
I'm OK with him taking a couple of jumpers per game if he catches the ball already facing the basket. Of course that is also dependent on the game situation.
Right 5 seconds left on shot clock is different than 20.
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Yeah, it’s different.

But short of some late clock broken play, I want Dave mostly playing like a rich man’s Landen Lucas.

Of course, that’s sort of contingent on having good guard play handle the scoring load, but alas.
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PhDhawk wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:24 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:14 pm
ousdahl wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:05 pm Yeah. I already said it, but Dave shouldn’t be shooting from further than Dok range.

Make power moves moving toward the basket, not finesse moves moving away from it.
I'm OK with him taking a couple of jumpers per game if he catches the ball already facing the basket. Of course that is also dependent on the game situation.
Right 5 seconds left on shot clock is different than 20.
The one he quickly threw up with 17 seconds left when we were down 1 to Tech sticks out. That's just BBIQ stuff--too hyper.
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Actually, with our offensive issues, I would have no problem with taking that wide open, in rhythm, top of the key three early in the shot clock a time or two each game. It's a better shot than probably most of what we end up getting (or in case of a TO, not getting) in half court sets.
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And as teams have to guard Dave more, maybe even coach Dave to look for the teammate streaking to the hoop cuz the defense is trying to close on Dave, but that might be too much bbiq, and also contingent on Dave actually hitting the 3 at least once in a while
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If we can win 3 of the next 4, I'll feel pretty good about us. I still don't expect us to reach the final 4, but it would be awesome if we could beat Baylor. Not expecting it to happen though.
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Mjl wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:00 pm Actually, with our offensive issues, I would have no problem with taking that wide open, in rhythm, top of the key three early in the shot clock a time or two each game. It's a better shot than probably most of what we end up getting (or in case of a TO, not getting) in half court sets.
Yep. Banks-ins possible. 50-50 rebounds too.
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That is how this team gets to a Final Four.

Aggressive, assignment sound defense. Relentlessly crash the boards. 8/26 from 3 is by no means good shooting, but it's good enough to play when you take care of the other stuff. Only 6 turnovers.
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According to his insta, looks like Tyon got inked last night.

Please start him, Coach
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ousdahl wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:30 am According to his insta, looks like Tyon got inked last night.

Please start him, Coach
3 days before a game..? What a weird time to get a tat, mid-season before the biggest game of the year.
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Maybe the ink reads 10 game streak.
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It’s just this stylized cursive font that says “Since 2000” across the tops of his knees.

I was kinda hoping it would be across both arms, with one arm reading “wing” and the other reading “span”
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shoulda got “high” and “hips” above his knees
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