COVID-19 - On the Ground

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TDub wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:38 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:23 am Ban is not the right word. And it’s more accurate to state that the reason for suspending the A-Z vax for now is because of fear and not because it’s causing any adverse reactions. There has also not been a casual link found between the A-Z vax and clotting issues.

There have, however, been several studies linking clotting issues with COVID-19.
There has been a link established
I'd be curious to know by who. Have not seen anyone come out and say there is a causal link. Temporarily suspension to look into it is something different.
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TDub wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:38 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:23 am Ban is not the right word. And it’s more accurate to state that the reason for suspending the A-Z vax for now is because of fear and not because it’s causing any adverse reactions. There has also not been a casual link found between the A-Z vax and clotting issues.

There have, however, been several studies linking clotting issues with COVID-19.
There has been a link established
CnB beat me to the response. The link is not between the vaccine and thrombosis. The link is between clotting and the infection itself. A lot of the suspensions (that’s the correct term, not ban) are due to short supply although perceived adverse events are a convenience.

Also see PhD’s link
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You guys really need to stop with all these facts.
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From today:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... pdates-us/
An expert panel is investigating the potential link between vaccinations and a small number of extremely rare brain clots, and it is slated to release its conclusions Thursday, Emer Cooke, the agency’s executive director, said at a news conference. There was “no indication” that the vaccine caused the adverse events, which seemed not to be higher in vaccinated people than in the general population, Cooke said.

“But this is a serious concern,” she added, “and it does need serious, detailed scientific evaluation.”
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If I was half my age I would not even consider it.
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MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:59 am If I was half my age I would not even consider it.
Weapons-grade dumb.

One, even for relatively young and healthy people, the risks associated with Covid (even just missing work for a week or two) far outweigh the risks of the vaccine.

Two - and I know this is a hard one for you - young, healthy people that get Covid are highly-efficient spreaders to others.

None of this has ever been about you, or any one of us.
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vega wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:13 am
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:35 am none in the US
That's not true. We have tens of millions of doses that we are just sitting on. We should sell them or give them to under-developed countries.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/us/p ... tates.html
well that’s quite interesting
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MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:59 am If I was half my age I would not even consider it.
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jfish26 wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:35 am
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:59 am If I was half my age I would not even consider it.
Weapons-grade dumb.

One, even for relatively young and healthy people, the risks associated with Covid (even just missing work for a week or two) far outweigh the risks of the vaccine.

Two - and I know this is a hard one for you - young, healthy people that get Covid are highly-efficient spreaders to others.

None of this has ever been about you, or any one of us.
3. Lots of healthy people who never had symptoms are later finding that they have lung damage, glassy-like spots on an x-ray, and reduced lung capacity.

Anecdotal, but several of my students 19-22 year olds lost taste and smell. Another girl, who was a former multi-time state champion in track, was hit very hard was down several weeks, and had to go to a pulmonary specialist.

I now know more students who've received the vaccine than had the virus, and none have had complications. I had several who had fairly severe, and to me, scary complications from covid.

The math tells you pretty unequivocally that the right move...even from a purely selfish Mich-y kinda standpoint, that the right move is to get vaccinated....and it's not even close.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/faceboo ... ?r=US&IR=T

I guess lobster got caught by facebook.
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Vaccinations seem to ease symptoms for some long-haul COVID-19 patients

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2021/0 ... -patients/

Not peer reviewed yet, but interesting.
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Coronavirus: EU medical regulator says AstraZeneca COVID vaccine does not cause blood clots

https://m.dw.com/en/coronavirus-eu-medi ... a-56887985
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"The real issue with covid: its not killing enough people." - randylahey

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Thats in seaside oregon. Or the first such sign was/is
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Mom just got her vaccine shot at the 4H fairgrounds.
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Glad she survived. She's lucky.
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Yeah every day is a blessing. Don't take it for granted. Thankfully we have vaccines to protect us and prolong our lives. Good thing the covid vaccines are so safe. Smart decision.
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Some of the science explaining why lobster is wrong about vaccines not protecting against mutant strains of coronavirus.

https://theconversation.com/coronavirus ... ies-156810

Full disclosure, this was based off the work of academics who provide nothing worthwhile and whose work was published in a journal article, which no one reads.
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Mine is scheduled for this afternoon. If I don't come back, tell my wife that I loved her.
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lobs is just trolling now

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