COVID-19 - On the Ground

[jhawks99]

KY just said anyone over 50 can now get it.

Come on down Gutter. I'll put you up for a few days.

[Mjl]

Wife got first shot today. We found that going through the official channel is not the way to go. It was close to home too.

[Deleted User 289]

KY just said anyone over 50 can now get it.

Come on down Gutter. I'll put you up for a few days.

Very kind of you!
If I knew I could get the J&J (single dose) in Kentucky I would strongly consider driving there to get it.

[Mjl]

KY just said anyone over 50 can now get it.

Come on down Gutter. I'll put you up for a few days.

Very kind of you!
If I knew I could get the J&J (single dose) in Kentucky I would strongly consider driving there to get it.

New Trier is giving shots. You might be able to get in there. Wife was able to because of her Crohn's. I can't imagine that's a better reason than heart and lung problems.

Edit: nevermind, I guess that was just today, some partnership they did with Albertsons.

[shindig]

So everybody getting shots now, do you plan to go out more (i.e. bars, restaurants) or more of the same? I get my first shot tomorrow, but still not sure I'll change my boring routine anytime soon.

[jfish26]

So everybody getting shots now, do you plan to go out more (i.e. bars, restaurants) or more of the same? I get my first shot tomorrow, but still not sure I'll change my boring routine anytime soon.

Unless something in the data changes, I do plan to act pretty normal, yes. I think there is substantial evidence that, in addition to dramatically decreasing the risk of infection (which is known), vaccination in fact prevents transmission (which seems to be the case, and of course is logical). In other words, once fully vaccinated, I won't be worried about getting it, and I won't be very worried about transmitting it.

While I understand the prior hedging on post-vaccination transmission (because we couldn't know, until we know), I think the concern-mongering on the point is actually exceedingly unhelpful to public confidence in the vaccine. As the data firms up, it's crucial that we tell people that the vaccine is permission to return to normal.

[shindig]

I'm so use to wearing a mask now, it will be almost weird to not...lol. I haven't decided if I'll do much this summer as far as vacations, but I hope to get out more on the weekends and kind of get back to normal, hit some games at the K and whatnot. Still not sure I will feel all that comfortable in large gatherings. I still haven't heard anything about "return to work", but I have a feeling it won't be until this Fall.

[jfish26]

I'm so use to wearing a mask now, it will be almost weird to not...lol. I haven't decided if I'll do much this summer as far as vacations, but I hope to get out more on the weekends and kind of get back to normal, hit some games at the K and whatnot. Still not sure I will feel all that comfortable in large gatherings. I still haven't heard anything about "return to work", but I have a feeling it won't be until this Fall.

I think you’ll start to see a pretty strong “return to work” push for something like the week after Memorial Day. Once we’re comfortably 6-8 weeks after the vaccines are generally available.

[MICHHAWK]

So everybody getting shots now, do you plan to go out more (i.e. bars, restaurants)?

Yes.

[Deleted User 89]

So everybody getting shots now, do you plan to go out more (i.e. bars, restaurants) or more of the same? I get my first shot tomorrow, but still not sure I'll change my boring routine anytime soon.

i’m not really gonna change things up for a while, except for making the trip back Lawrence this summer to see family. i’ll still be masking up for things like groceries, and will probably severely limit things like restaurants

[Deleted User 89]

So everybody getting shots now, do you plan to go out more (i.e. bars, restaurants) or more of the same? I get my first shot tomorrow, but still not sure I'll change my boring routine anytime soon.

Unless something in the data changes, I do plan to act pretty normal, yes. I think there is substantial evidence that, in addition to dramatically decreasing the risk of infection (which is known), vaccination in fact prevents transmission (which seems to be the case, and of course is logical). In other words, once fully vaccinated, I won't be worried about getting it, and I won't be very worried about transmitting it.

While I understand the prior hedging on post-vaccination transmission (because we couldn't know, until we know), I think the concern-mongering on the point is actually exceedingly unhelpful to public confidence in the vaccine. As the data firms up, it's crucial that we tell people that the vaccine is permission to return to normal.

while i appreciate that sentiment, i’m still concerned about the variants. the longer it takes to get to reasonable global vaccination level, the more opportunity exists for vaccine-resistant strains

given that so many, even in the US either won’t get vaccinated at all or won’t for quite some time, i see no reason to go all laissez faire prematurely

[CrimsonNBlue]

I will generally follow what the CDC says. Restaurants and travel, yes. Caution around the vulnerable, of course. Back to the office very soon, although I think there are non-COVID reasons why that will always be different now.

And, as I have said throughout the thread, I'm very OK with masks and distancing lasting well past full vaccination.

[jfish26]

So everybody getting shots now, do you plan to go out more (i.e. bars, restaurants) or more of the same? I get my first shot tomorrow, but still not sure I'll change my boring routine anytime soon.

Unless something in the data changes, I do plan to act pretty normal, yes. I think there is substantial evidence that, in addition to dramatically decreasing the risk of infection (which is known), vaccination in fact prevents transmission (which seems to be the case, and of course is logical). In other words, once fully vaccinated, I won't be worried about getting it, and I won't be very worried about transmitting it.

While I understand the prior hedging on post-vaccination transmission (because we couldn't know, until we know), I think the concern-mongering on the point is actually exceedingly unhelpful to public confidence in the vaccine. As the data firms up, it's crucial that we tell people that the vaccine is permission to return to normal.

while i appreciate that sentiment, i’m still concerned about the variants. the longer it takes to get to reasonable global vaccination level, the more opportunity exists for vaccine-resistant strains

given that so many, even in the US either won’t get vaccinated at all or won’t for quite some time, i see no reason to go all laissez faire prematurely

I'm not sure we're really misaligned. I think the public health and economic costs of vaccine hesitancy far outweigh those of post-vaccination infection/transmission.

In other words - I think we need to be messaging that the vaccines are the ticket back to normal life. "Take the vaccine, but stay in your bubble" does more harm than good, in my opinion.

[PhDhawk]

The only thing I'd add, is full level of immunity seems to happen two weeks after your second dose (if getting the two dose vaccine). I get my second dose on Wednesday, but I'll be continuing with all precaustions for two weeks after that.

Don't let your guard down the day after you get your first dose.

[jfish26]

The only thing I'd add, is full level of immunity seems to happen two weeks after your second dose (if getting the two dose vaccine). I get my second dose on Wednesday, but I'll be continuing with all precaustions for two weeks after that.

Don't let your guard down the day after you get your first dose.

Yes, agree. Until someone tells me differently, I'll regard myself as "fully-vaccinated" two weeks after Dose 2. So, for me, around the middle of May.

[NewtonHawk11]

The only thing I'd add, is full level of immunity seems to happen two weeks after your second dose (if getting the two dose vaccine). I get my second dose on Wednesday, but I'll be continuing with all precaustions for two weeks after that.

Don't let your guard down the day after you get your first dose.

Yes, agree. Until someone tells me differently, I'll regard myself as "fully-vaccinated" two weeks after Dose 2. So, for me, around the middle of May.

Been told the same for me according to Mrs. Newton, RN. 2nd is April 9th. So will be somewhat safe until mid-to-late April.

[CrimsonNBlue]

No way dude. We tore South Beach up after the first dose!

[Cascadia]

I will generally follow what the CDC says.

This. Trust the science. Trust the experts.

[shindig]

I will generally follow what the CDC says. Restaurants and travel, yes. Caution around the vulnerable, of course. Back to the office very soon, although I think there are non-COVID reasons why that will always be different now.

And, as I have said throughout the thread, I'm very OK with masks and distancing lasting well past full vaccination.

I'm torn between going back into the office and WFH, not really for health reasons, just I've gotten a little spoiled working from home the last year (sleep in a little later, shower/not shower, occasional nap or walking my dog over lunch, listening to music w/o earbuds, etc.). I think my company is still looking into RTW, but I think most will have the option of working from home a few days a week if they prefer.

[Mjl]

I'm waiting for the daily death count to drop into double digits. We had quadruple digits yesterday; I'm curious about the nature of those. Like if they are cases where lingering affects made it take a long time to die, or if there are still lots of unvaccinated seniors, or if these are higher-risk under 65 people... Or just a combination of those.