Shaka to Marquette
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what!?!?!?!?!?!?!
How does that make sense for any party involved?
How does that make sense for any party involved?
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Beard to Texas and KU on probation would be quite a landscape change in the Big 12.
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Marquette is actually a perfect fit. It has a national Championship. Recruit down in Chicago. Jesuit values. Great facilities.
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OH MY GOD! That is wild.
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I assume Tech would recede, though, so it's not a huge net difference.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:24 am Beard to Texas and KU on probation would be quite a landscape change in the Big 12.
In other words, if Texas gets a little better (they were a 3, so there's only so much headroom) and Tech gets much worse, we're in better shape than if Tech stayed really good and Texas (with Oats or something) got a little better.
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I think if you get past the drop down in prestige and pay cut, all parties have to be pretty thrilled.
Shaka must have been dead man walking.
Shaka must have been dead man walking.
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I am just assuming UT would give Beard the resources to recruit like Shaka, but you're correct that Tech receding would make up for it.jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:32 amI assume Tech would recede, though, so it's not a huge net difference.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:24 am Beard to Texas and KU on probation would be quite a landscape change in the Big 12.
In other words, if Texas gets a little better (they were a 3, so there's only so much headroom) and Tech gets much worse, we're in better shape than if Tech stayed really good and Texas (with Oats or something) got a little better.
We might be seeing some of those early 2000's UT teams, though. I think it's great.
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The streak would not exist but for the divisional scheduling, that's for damn sure.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:35 amI am just assuming UT would give Beard the resources to recruit like Shaka, but you're correct that Tech receding would make up for it.jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:32 amI assume Tech would recede, though, so it's not a huge net difference.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:24 am Beard to Texas and KU on probation would be quite a landscape change in the Big 12.
In other words, if Texas gets a little better (they were a 3, so there's only so much headroom) and Tech gets much worse, we're in better shape than if Tech stayed really good and Texas (with Oats or something) got a little better.
We might be seeing some of those early 2000's UT teams, though. I think it's great.
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Quite hilarious though that he dipped before Texas had a tough decision to make.
But I think he'll kill it at Marquette. More his style of school. I don't think he does well with a school like Texas.
But I think he'll kill it at Marquette. More his style of school. I don't think he does well with a school like Texas.
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And that's the truth.jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:36 amThe streak would not exist but for the divisional scheduling, that's for damn sure.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:35 amI am just assuming UT would give Beard the resources to recruit like Shaka, but you're correct that Tech receding would make up for it.jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:32 am
I assume Tech would recede, though, so it's not a huge net difference.
In other words, if Texas gets a little better (they were a 3, so there's only so much headroom) and Tech gets much worse, we're in better shape than if Tech stayed really good and Texas (with Oats or something) got a little better.
We might be seeing some of those early 2000's UT teams, though. I think it's great.
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Of course, he has 0 conference championships.NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:37 amBut I think he'll kill it at Marquette. More his style of school.
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According to people in the know at Texas, Texas was giving him the chance to speak freely to other schools and have him leave so they didn't have to fire their coach.
Although in this case, I think it makes Texas look bad. Fire them, don't let them leave for a step down.
Although in this case, I think it makes Texas look bad. Fire them, don't let them leave for a step down.
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That's the part I can't get past. That, and the way it makes UT look. I mean, they avoid having to fire Smart, and the buyout, etc. But the look of having your HC leave because he prefers Marquette.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:33 am I think if you get past the drop down in prestige and pay cut, all parties have to be pretty thrilled.
Shaka must have been dead man walking.
And for coaches and their egos...to say, I can't hack it at Texas I need to go someplace smaller...is very surprising.
And if you told me today I had to choose to hire a HC and my choices were Wojo or Smart...I think I'd go Wojo...although their resumes at Marquette and UT are eerily similar.
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I am sure Texas's #1 motivation was money and that outrageous buyout.NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:40 amAlthough in this case, I think it makes Texas look bad. Fire them, don't let them leave for a step down.
But, it could allow Shaka to spin it and say he left on his terms for a better fit. Fired never looks great.
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You know Wojo has to be laughing about it.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:43 amThat's the part I can't get past. That, and the way it makes UT look. I mean, they avoid having to fire Smart, and the buyout, etc. But the look of having your HC leave because he prefers Marquette.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:33 am I think if you get past the drop down in prestige and pay cut, all parties have to be pretty thrilled.
Shaka must have been dead man walking.
And for coaches and their egos...to say, I can't hack it at Texas I need to go someplace smaller...is very surprising.
And if you told me today I had to choose to hire a HC and my choices were Wojo or Smart...I think I'd go Wojo...although their resumes at Marquette and UT are eerily similar.
“I don’t remember anything he said, but it was a very memorable speech.” Julian Wright on a speech Michael Jordan gave to a group he was in
"But don’t ever get it twisted, it’s Rock Chalk forever." MG
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Right, I'm sure the reason he got fired were for missing the tourney too often and not making it past the opening round when he did, so they replace him with a guy who frequently missed the tourney and never got out of the first round at Texas.NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:45 amYou know Wojo has to be laughing about it.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:43 amThat's the part I can't get past. That, and the way it makes UT look. I mean, they avoid having to fire Smart, and the buyout, etc. But the look of having your HC leave because he prefers Marquette.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:33 am I think if you get past the drop down in prestige and pay cut, all parties have to be pretty thrilled.
Shaka must have been dead man walking.
And for coaches and their egos...to say, I can't hack it at Texas I need to go someplace smaller...is very surprising.
And if you told me today I had to choose to hire a HC and my choices were Wojo or Smart...I think I'd go Wojo...although their resumes at Marquette and UT are eerily similar.
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All fair points.PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:43 amThat's the part I can't get past. That, and the way it makes UT look. I mean, they avoid having to fire Smart, and the buyout, etc. But the look of having your HC leave because he prefers Marquette.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:33 am I think if you get past the drop down in prestige and pay cut, all parties have to be pretty thrilled.
Shaka must have been dead man walking.
And for coaches and their egos...to say, I can't hack it at Texas I need to go someplace smaller...is very surprising.
And if you told me today I had to choose to hire a HC and my choices were Wojo or Smart...I think I'd go Wojo...although their resumes at Marquette and UT are eerily similar.
I don't think UT will particularly care what it looks like if they get their guy, and you'd think they have a couple of guys lined up to throw UT money at.
Shaka must have been on his way out and I agree that it's really not an improvement over Wojo.