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It's still very legit.
Just imagine it's more focused.
I don't think they are making up any of the stories presented at all - they just aren't commenting on all human terror/mass murder/enslavement.
A few sentences in the early narration would have cleared up/legitimized what they are trying to present in the series.
In KUBB terms, it'd be like a documentary called the Golden Age and it was a four part series about Bill Self at KU but didn't mention any prior coaches or seasons.
Just imagine it's more focused.
I don't think they are making up any of the stories presented at all - they just aren't commenting on all human terror/mass murder/enslavement.
A few sentences in the early narration would have cleared up/legitimized what they are trying to present in the series.
In KUBB terms, it'd be like a documentary called the Golden Age and it was a four part series about Bill Self at KU but didn't mention any prior coaches or seasons.
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Hardcore History rules. WWI is probably the best of his series. 5 or 6 episodes of about 3 hours each but well worth it. Fall of the Roman Republic was excellent as well.TDub wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:11 amYou mean Genghis Khan wasn't a saint?pdub wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:01 am The first episode is good. Loaded with history which is my kinda show.
Issue with the heart of the premise, at least from what the narrator says, is that white Europeans were the only ones to subjugate another people to a lower level of human and enslave and/or exterminate them which is not true.
Humans with power throughout history, albeit on a smaller scale in terms of populations, have been brutal to each other.
On another note, the Dan Carlin podcast (hardcore history i think?) Does a 5 or 6 part series on Genghis Khan. Fucking fantastic. Its like 18 or 20 hours of podcast though.
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Yes, I was going to mention the Rwandan genocide of not that long ago.
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Wonder where Vesuvius/pompeii fall on that scale.TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:14 pm tangentially related...
https://io9.gizmodo.com/estimated-death ... 1441118361
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the other figure for which we’ll never really have an accurate number for, is the number of American Indians wiped out (directly and indirectly) due to the colonizing if the new world
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it’s in there...16K in a dayTDub wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:19 pmWonder where Vesuvius/pompeii fall on that scale.TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:14 pm tangentially related...
https://io9.gizmodo.com/estimated-death ... 1441118361
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Obviously smaller scale but the natives did a pretty good job of obliterating each others tribes/factions too, and taking slaves and wives etc. Historically we are a brutal speciesTraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:19 pm the other figure for which we’ll never really have an accurate number for, is the number of American Indians wiped out (directly and indirectly) due to the colonizing if the new world
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Ahh there it is....i cant read.TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:20 pmit’s in there...16K in a dayTDub wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:19 pmWonder where Vesuvius/pompeii fall on that scale.TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:14 pm tangentially related...
https://io9.gizmodo.com/estimated-death ... 1441118361
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The Heart of Darkness/Apacolypse Now relationship has always amazed me.
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relatively speaking, though, those numbers would be insignificantTDub wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:21 pmObviously smaller scale but the natives did a pretty good job of obliterating each others tribes/factions too, and taking slaves and wives etc. Historically we are a brutal speciesTraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:19 pm the other figure for which we’ll never really have an accurate number for, is the number of American Indians wiped out (directly and indirectly) due to the colonizing if the new world
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Not insignificant to those peoples at that time. But yes.TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:27 pmrelatively speaking, though, those numbers would be insignificantTDub wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:21 pmObviously smaller scale but the natives did a pretty good job of obliterating each others tribes/factions too, and taking slaves and wives etc. Historically we are a brutal speciesTraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:19 pm the other figure for which we’ll never really have an accurate number for, is the number of American Indians wiped out (directly and indirectly) due to the colonizing if the new world
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I read the book The Autumn of the Black Snake a bit ago detailing early British/French Indian wars and the transition to the early US government and establishment of an army to handle Native American uprisings/attacks.
Lot of holyshit violence in there including beheading children/infant colonists and putting their heads on spikes, all pointing west.
Lot of holyshit violence in there including beheading children/infant colonists and putting their heads on spikes, all pointing west.
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I thought Mao and Stalin actually took the #1 and #2 spot?TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:35 am i just googled “worst genocides in history”
nazis have #1 and 2
but yes, that doesn’t take slavery into account, which the pharaohs were quite adept at
maybe as many as 9 million died during the crusades
around 9 million during nazi reign (Jews + Poles)
an estimated 2 million slaves died just on the voyages from Africa to N. America
Maybe those were just mass murders and not specifically genocides?
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Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
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This is a very odd thread, even for here and even for April.
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i was citing wikipedia, so...PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:01 pmI thought Mao and Stalin actually took the #1 and #2 spot?TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:35 am i just googled “worst genocides in history”
nazis have #1 and 2
but yes, that doesn’t take slavery into account, which the pharaohs were quite adept at
maybe as many as 9 million died during the crusades
around 9 million during nazi reign (Jews + Poles)
an estimated 2 million slaves died just on the voyages from Africa to N. America
Maybe those were just mass murders and not specifically genocides?
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Sorry that it doesn't work for the both of you and doesn't speak to exactly what you wish a thread could be.
We'll try harder to be exactly what you want and discuss only things that don't bother you.
We'll try harder to be exactly what you want and discuss only things that don't bother you.
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personally, i think this is a great thread
it prompted me to do some research, so i learned some new things
i still blame you though, pdub
it prompted me to do some research, so i learned some new things
i still blame you though, pdub