Extremely well! WTF?BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:29 pm Runaway favorites?
How'd that work out for Gonzaga.
Bryce Thompson Transferring
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I tried to avoid slipping into old habits, but when moron nerds go look at box scores alone it's hard not to.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:37 amWelcome back.
"So, which one of these topics are conspiracy?
1 .911 was done by Israel: okay, if you think that one is conspiracy, I'll just leave that one alone."
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1 .911 was done by Israel: okay, if you think that one is conspiracy, I'll just leave that one alone."
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Baylor's defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2018 Kansas defense.BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:07 am
Being 3 heavy/guard heavy isn't a negative in my opinion. It got them to a final 4. Baylor is pretty 3 heavy/guard heavy and it worked out ok for them.
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We don't need to strip context.
Selfs 2018 offense was let it fly - so actually Vonte got to chuck it up a lot - and i'd argue his guards ( Malik, Svi, Vick ) were quite a bit better than Dotson's ( Ochai, Garrett, Moss ) - so you might see a way where Dotson's assists could actually be even higher. And it was a slower pace than 18. So no need to strip context at all.
But 2020 Dok, paired with the you can't stop me from going to the basket Dotson, and with the all you gotta do is play defense Garrett, was fearsome -- they had 2 of the top 5 defenders in the nation.
You might also see that Dotson made the consensus 2nd AA team - while Vonte made 1st.
So arguing that Vonte was better, but not THAT much better, actually shouldn't be that hot of a take.
Selfs 2018 offense was let it fly - so actually Vonte got to chuck it up a lot - and i'd argue his guards ( Malik, Svi, Vick ) were quite a bit better than Dotson's ( Ochai, Garrett, Moss ) - so you might see a way where Dotson's assists could actually be even higher. And it was a slower pace than 18. So no need to strip context at all.
But 2020 Dok, paired with the you can't stop me from going to the basket Dotson, and with the all you gotta do is play defense Garrett, was fearsome -- they had 2 of the top 5 defenders in the nation.
You might also see that Dotson made the consensus 2nd AA team - while Vonte made 1st.
So arguing that Vonte was better, but not THAT much better, actually shouldn't be that hot of a take.
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I like how you don't include Garrett in the 2018 group, even though he played a lot of minutes. My favorite from that season was in the Final Four when he received a great pass for a wide open 3 and froze up.pdub wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:41 am
Selfs 2018 offense was let it fly - so actually Vonte got to chuck it up a lot - and i'd argue his guards ( Malik, Svi, Vick ) were quite a bit better than Dotson's ( Ochai, Garrett, Moss ) - so you might see a way where Dotson's assists could actually be even higher. And it was a slower pace than 18. So no need to strip context at all.
You're also remembering Big 12 Tournament/NCAA Tournament Malik which was a different beast entirely from regular season Malik. All of which influences Devonte's numbers. He was asked to do far more than Dotson ever was, including and especially on defense.
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"So, which one of these topics are conspiracy?
1 .911 was done by Israel: okay, if you think that one is conspiracy, I'll just leave that one alone."
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1 .911 was done by Israel: okay, if you think that one is conspiracy, I'll just leave that one alone."
- lobser
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2020 B12 press release:
Marcus Garrett ( Kansas ) was named Defense Player of the Year.
2018 B12 press release:
Big 12 All-Defensive Team -
Barry Brown, Mohamba Bamba, Sagaba Konate, Jevon Carter, Zhaire Smith
And are you arguing Ochai, Garrett, Moss > Malik, Svi, Vick 18 offensively?
Marcus Garrett ( Kansas ) was named Defense Player of the Year.
2018 B12 press release:
Big 12 All-Defensive Team -
Barry Brown, Mohamba Bamba, Sagaba Konate, Jevon Carter, Zhaire Smith
And are you arguing Ochai, Garrett, Moss > Malik, Svi, Vick 18 offensively?
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Uh, I'm arguing that it's actually very close? You're the one furiously scrolling box scores to make an argument about how there's a huge gap. There isn't.
"So, which one of these topics are conspiracy?
1 .911 was done by Israel: okay, if you think that one is conspiracy, I'll just leave that one alone."
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1 .911 was done by Israel: okay, if you think that one is conspiracy, I'll just leave that one alone."
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Oklahoma State.
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What if he breaks a finger during every home game?
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Ugh why would you even say that
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Transferring within the same conference is pretty douchey if you ask me, but whatever...
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Maybe.
He’s also from Oklahoma, and a lot more talented than your average Tulsa recruit.
But yea it kinda feels weird.
He’s also from Oklahoma, and a lot more talented than your average Tulsa recruit.
But yea it kinda feels weird.
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And it was kinda smartass of me when I first made the comment, but I really do hope Braun gets the best of him.
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well, it's not like he left KU for geographical reasons.
I only came to kick some ass...
Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
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I love it. Bill knows him better than Bryce knows himself.punkrockhawk wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:44 pm Transferring within the same conference is pretty douchey if you ask me, but whatever...
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Take away the drive and force him to shoot that ugly j?
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If it gives us an advantage, can we send out transfers to the Pac12 then, since that's the conference we apparently can't beat in the tournament.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:49 pmI love it. Bill knows him better than Bryce knows himself.punkrockhawk wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:44 pm Transferring within the same conference is pretty douchey if you ask me, but whatever...
I only came to kick some ass...
Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.