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Unbelievable. What was this committee doing for the last 12-24 months? In today's virtual age you are telling you me couldn't have done interviews virtually, viewed documents online, etc.

What a farce. Lets get on with the ruling already and be done with it.
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holidaysmore wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:46 am Unbelievable. What was this committee doing for the last 12-24 months? In today's virtual age you are telling you me couldn't have done interviews virtually, viewed documents online, etc.
Guessing $.
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Feels like this is more than what the NCAA has on KU.
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holidaysmore wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:46 am Unbelievable. What was this committee doing for the last 12-24 months? In today's virtual age you are telling you me couldn't have done interviews virtually, viewed documents online, etc.

What a farce. Lets get on with the ruling already and be done with it.
Many of the people on these panels are still practicing attorneys. This isnt their only job full time.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:17 pm
Feels like this is more than what the NCAA has on KU.
Counterpoint: so?
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jfish26 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:19 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:17 pm
Feels like this is more than what the NCAA has on KU.
Counterpoint: so?
So, I just want to whine.

But, more seriously, the conversation/reaction around the whole thing is changing towards KU's favor and the ridiculously slow response by the NCAA on its NIL promises.
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How many times is too many times for KU lawyers to rub the NCAA’s face in the Zion/dook shitpile during our proceedings?
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ousdahl wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:02 pm How many times is too many times for KU lawyers to rub the NCAA’s face in the Zion/dook shitpile during our proceedings?
It's one of those numbers with a !
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I still wonder what woulda happened if KU pulled a Dook and said “after a thorough internal review, we found no wrongdoing (tweeted 45 minutes after opening the investigation), and Billy/Silvio is good to go.

It woulda been a little harder with Silvio, but still
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ousdahl wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:27 pm I still wonder what woulda happened if KU pulled a Dook and said “after a thorough internal review, we found no wrongdoing (tweeted 45 minutes after opening the investigation), and Billy/Silvio is good to go.

It woulda been a little harder with Silvio, but still
Problem is we are, like Arizona, squarely in the goldilocks zone for deterrent punishment: we are noteworthy enough to be made an example of, but not quite the golden goose that can't be killed.
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jfish26 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:27 pm I still wonder what woulda happened if KU pulled a Dook and said “after a thorough internal review, we found no wrongdoing (tweeted 45 minutes after opening the investigation), and Billy/Silvio is good to go.

It woulda been a little harder with Silvio, but still
Problem is we are, like Arizona, squarely in the goldilocks zone for deterrent punishment: we are noteworthy enough to be made an example of, but not quite the golden goose that can't be killed.
Truer words never spoken. Just watched the Royals destroyed by an umpire last night who knew there would only be a collective snicker.
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So, what you're saying, Gov. Kemp (R), is that socialism is fine when it's a redistribution of wealth from...err...basketball players to lacrosse players.

New Georgia law legalizing college athlete endorsements also allows schools to take athletes' money

https://sports.yahoo.com/new-georgia-la ... 50090.html
College athletes in Georgia are now allowed to collect endorsements and sponsorships. And their schools can take a significant cut of that money if they want.

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) signed the state's new bill regulating athletes' name, image and likeness rights on Thursday. Kemp held his signing ceremony at the University of Georgia with a Bulldog backdrop in the athletic department's recruiting lounge. The symbolism was meant to be obvious for a law ostensibly designed to let athletes profit off their own image rights starting on July 1.

But there's a provision in the law that allows colleges to have significant control over athletes' endorsement money.

The bill that Kemp signed into law allows schools across the state to take up to 75% of an athlete's endorsement income. That cut would be deposited into a pool for all athletes at the school and then redistributed upon athletes' graduation.
In addition to the...err...basketball versus lacrosse implications...why in the world would a school that recruits competitively actually make use of this?

And so, if the purpose of the law isn't to help kids...and isn't to help schools...is it just a declaration of principles?
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There is a pretty large contingent of the "anti-socialism" crowd that is really just "anti-socialism for other people, those people."
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as per the norm, gold medals in mental gymnastics for that side of the aisle
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Mellinger pretty much nails it on the olds bitching about the transfer portal:

I don’t like the transfer trend either, but the power dynamics are so out of reason that I cannot imagine advocating for transfer limits without fundamental changes in other areas of college sports.

Because coaches are constantly navigating their own version of the transfer portal, and they’ve been eligible immediately for years.

I’d like to see a system that rewards players for staying in school, and for not transferring. Give them cash bonuses tied to academic progress and their draft prospects.

Right now, all that’s done is whining. That’s what coaches do when asked about the portal. They whine. The suits in Indianapolis know it’s not great for their product, but they’re not doing anything about it.

There are reasons that change would be hard, but all of the challenges are self-inflicted by decades of justifying an unfair system with plainly b.s. logic.
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jfish26 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm
ousdahl wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:27 pm I still wonder what woulda happened if KU pulled a Dook and said “after a thorough internal review, we found no wrongdoing (tweeted 45 minutes after opening the investigation), and Billy/Silvio is good to go.

It woulda been a little harder with Silvio, but still
Problem is we are, like Arizona, squarely in the goldilocks zone for deterrent punishment: we are noteworthy enough to be made an example of, but not quite the golden goose that can't be killed.
While that may be true about us, some people around here like to act like Duke Basketball is Alabama Football. Duke isn't much (if any) more valuable to the NCAA than we are.
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does the ncaa know that?
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so did Silvio get kicked off the team but not school?

Who, uh, paid his tuition?
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