Do not open!

[pdub]

Hinrich shoots his average from 3 in the national title game and he'd be third.

[pdub]

38:

Dedric Lawson 17.3
Darrell Arthur 16
Josh Jackson 15.9
Thomas Robinson 15.4
Tyon Grant-Foster 15.4

[Deleted User 863]

38:

Dedric Lawson 17.3
Darrell Arthur 16
Josh Jackson 15.9
Thomas Robinson 15.4
Tyon Grant-Foster 15.4

Wow. TGF!

[TDub]

Most surprising is that he averaged enough minutes. He did shoot a lot when he was in there

[pdub]

8.1 mpg.
Didnt seem like it though.

[ousdahl]

Perhaps even more surprising than that, is he made this list while unable to earn more minutes on a team that was otherwise afraid to shoot.

[pdub]

DMac wasnt afraid to shoot.
Hes 7th or 8th on the list.

[PhDhawk]

mpg are misleading since DNPs don't get averaged in as 0 minutes.

[TDub]

Fair point. Didnt think about that.

[Mjl]

Exactly. Self used him when he needed a spark of athleticism, which would be more than a couple minutes... Or, most often, he wouldn't need him at all.

Same thing I think might be Cuffe's role this year. That "I don't need a basketball player, I need an athlete" game or two.

[Deleted User 863]

DMac wasnt afraid to shoot.
Hes 7th or 8th on the list.

I really never felt like our guys were afraid to shoot. They just had a hard time getting open for good looks sometimes because none really create for themselves or others off the dribble.

[pdub]

Ochai and Braun would back off shots they should have taken often.

[ousdahl]

And they still both only shot 37% from deep.

It’d be one thing if they were both trigger happy. But they hesitated unless wide open, and still shot a rather tepid percentage

[pdub]

Both improve by 3% and we are cookin.

[Deleted User 863]

Braun just has a sorta slow shot so he isn't always as open as he seems.

For Och, if i am being honest, i didn't notice all these must take shots he was passing up....and I don't remember Self ever complaining about guys continually passing up open shots he wanted them to take. But maybe i missed it.

[ousdahl]

One other paradox from last year is that we really only had one good big in DMac, yet he still only played 23 minutes a game.

I think that should increase, plus upping it with 10-15 minutes of solid backup play (hold your ground and stretch the offense Cam?!), and we’ll be a lot better yet.

[Deleted User 863]

Sounds like Cam and DMac may spend quite a bit of time together on the floor.

[PhDhawk]

I think, with Braun at least, it wasn't that he was hesitant per se, but that he just had bad shot selection overall. He'd pass up a shot he should take, then a few possessions later, jack up a guarded three early in the shot clock.

I think some of that is on Self. I think he rides guys, and then they often overcorrect and it becomes a cycle.

[ousdahl]

Well, I promised myself I would stop being so critical of him, but if I may say so matter of factly:

Braun has some of the weirdest shot mechanics we’ve ever seen.

[PhDhawk]

Well, I promised myself I would stop being so critical of him, but if I may say so matter of factly:

Braun has some of the weirdest shot mechanics we’ve ever seen.

Nah.

Not text book like Greene.

But I don't even think he's top 20 on the list of KU guys with weird mechanics in the Self era.