F the NCAA

[CrimsonNBlue]

You know how you could really benefit student athletes?!

All of them? Or just a few?

well when you out it that way, I couldn’t give two shits whether anyone associated with mizzou receives anything of benefit ever again.

They probably need the most advocacy.

"How to ruin a life in 4 years" authored by the Mizzou Curse.

[twocoach]

NIL helps the non-revenue athletes, too. There are many female student athletes that should be able to profit off of their large social media following (even though that can be icky, they should still be able to get compensated for it).

My concern isn't students making other sources of income. (Particularly in ways unrelated to their sport, I think the Greg Anthony type of examples make the NCAA look extremely dumb). I have a problem with the notion that it shouldn't or can't be restricted. I think, at the very least, that the universities should not be involved in setting up deals for players...and they will immediately.

I've said it before, but I think all you have to do is restrict endorsement deals to Sophomores and above and you avoid most of the problems that would come with using it as a recruiting tool, but no one seemed to agree with me.

The Supreme Court is stating that the NCAA doesn't really have the right to restrict the earnings of the athletes so why would it be OK to only do it to freshmen? If they don't have the right to restrict their earning potential then then they shouldn't be allowed to restrict freshmen.

[PhDhawk]

NIL helps the non-revenue athletes, too. There are many female student athletes that should be able to profit off of their large social media following (even though that can be icky, they should still be able to get compensated for it).

My concern isn't students making other sources of income. (Particularly in ways unrelated to their sport, I think the Greg Anthony type of examples make the NCAA look extremely dumb). I have a problem with the notion that it shouldn't or can't be restricted. I think, at the very least, that the universities should not be involved in setting up deals for players...and they will immediately.

I've said it before, but I think all you have to do is restrict endorsement deals to Sophomores and above and you avoid most of the problems that would come with using it as a recruiting tool, but no one seemed to agree with me.

The Supreme Court is stating that the NCAA doesn't really have the right to restrict the earnings of the athletes so why would it be OK to only do it to freshmen? If they don't have the right to restrict their earning potential then then they shouldn't be allowed to restrict freshmen.

Yeah, I don't agree with the SC's ruling.

[ousdahl]

Oh yeah, I forgot to make my Kavanaugh joke earlier.


The only other time I’ve agreed with him about anything is when he got in front of the Senate and yelled I LIKE BEER!

[ousdahl]

A New Era Dawns In College Sports, As The NCAA Scrambles To Keep Up

[jfish26]

So, uh...I declare victory?

NCAA takes big step toward allowing athletes to profit from name, image or likeness

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/28/us/ncaa- ... index.html

In a major step, the NCAA Division I Council voted Monday to support an interim policy that would allow college athletes to profit off their name, image and likeness (NIL) without violating NCAA rules until federal legislation or new NCAA rules are adopted.

The Division I Board of Directors will meet Wednesday to review and vote on the recommendation.
In states that have passed NIL-related laws -- Alabama, Florida and Georgia, among others -- athletes would be able to participate in NIL activities that are "consistent with the laws."
For states without NIL laws, athletes will be able to freely engage in NIL activities, making money off signing autographs, or endorsement deals, but schools and conferences in those states, "may choose to adopt their own policies."

It's sort of weird how when you, like, build a condo tower on swampland, you're surprised when it falls down.

Wait, I'm mixing my "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" examples-in-the-news.

[ousdahl]

any language on driving your step mom’s Camaro?

[twocoach]

So, uh...I declare victory?

NCAA takes big step toward allowing athletes to profit from name, image or likeness

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/28/us/ncaa- ... index.html

In a major step, the NCAA Division I Council voted Monday to support an interim policy that would allow college athletes to profit off their name, image and likeness (NIL) without violating NCAA rules until federal legislation or new NCAA rules are adopted.

The Division I Board of Directors will meet Wednesday to review and vote on the recommendation.
In states that have passed NIL-related laws -- Alabama, Florida and Georgia, among others -- athletes would be able to participate in NIL activities that are "consistent with the laws."
For states without NIL laws, athletes will be able to freely engage in NIL activities, making money off signing autographs, or endorsement deals, but schools and conferences in those states, "may choose to adopt their own policies."

It's sort of weird how when you, like, build a condo tower on swampland, you're surprised when it falls down.

Wait, I'm mixing my "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" examples-in-the-news.

How long did it take the ncaa to transition from "this is too complicated to be able to do" to "here's our policy", about a week?

Pretty incredible what getting your ass handed to you by the Supreme Court can make possible.

[ousdahl]

Pretty incredible that it took the Supreme Court either way

[jfish26]

So, uh...I declare victory?

NCAA takes big step toward allowing athletes to profit from name, image or likeness

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/28/us/ncaa- ... index.html

In a major step, the NCAA Division I Council voted Monday to support an interim policy that would allow college athletes to profit off their name, image and likeness (NIL) without violating NCAA rules until federal legislation or new NCAA rules are adopted.

The Division I Board of Directors will meet Wednesday to review and vote on the recommendation.
In states that have passed NIL-related laws -- Alabama, Florida and Georgia, among others -- athletes would be able to participate in NIL activities that are "consistent with the laws."
For states without NIL laws, athletes will be able to freely engage in NIL activities, making money off signing autographs, or endorsement deals, but schools and conferences in those states, "may choose to adopt their own policies."

It's sort of weird how when you, like, build a condo tower on swampland, you're surprised when it falls down.

Wait, I'm mixing my "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" examples-in-the-news.

How long did it take the ncaa to transition from "this is too complicated to be able to do" to "here's our policy", about a week?

Pretty incredible what getting your ass handed to you by the Supreme Court can make possible.

It's been blisteringly obvious for years now that this day would come. Maybe - and stay with me here - maybe, the NCAA should have focused on how to make this work, rather than deploy its resources pretending this was anything but inevitable. And hurting a lot of kids along the way.

[twocoach]

Pretty incredible that it took the Supreme Court either way

That's just about the only part of this that doesn't surprise me. The ncaa has dug in their heels so far for so many decades that it was clear they were never going to change course without being forced to.

[CrimsonNBlue]

I thought this thread bump would be about TCU.

Allegations their assistant coach took bribe money from Dawkins. TCU fired him back when.

TCU gets 3 years probation today and the assistant gets 5 year show cause.

The slaps on the wrist just keep getting softer. Looks like KU could come out of this pretty good, meaning no postseason ban. KT, not so much.

[TDub]

If KT takes the spear.....so be it

[Deleted User 89]

If KT takes the spear.....so be it

^^^^^

he was sloppy

[CrimsonNBlue]

If KT takes the spear.....so be it

^^^^^

he was sloppy

Well in terms of punishment, it is or should be all relevant. In the very worst light, the interpretation can suggest that KT had knowledge of 3rd party cash going to 2 recruits that in one case never played a second of basketball for KU and another that was held out and re-held out as soon as the NCAA notified KU.

Compare that to the old TCU coach and Jaylen Fisher--KU is a big name, but was by far not the worst actor considering the (highly suspect) evidence, some of which was not admissible and therefore not considered by fact finders.

[ousdahl]

was the player re-held out when the NCAA notified KU specifically, or just when a federal trial of all things dug up dirt that the NCAA’s own clearinghouse didn’t?

[NDballer13]

Could also word it that the player only played after the NCAA, itself, cleared him to do so.

[ousdahl]

Could also word it that the player only played after the NCAA, itself, cleared him to do so.

You can say that again!

No for real, dude never played a minute until the ncaa cleared him, twice

[CrimsonNBlue]

was the player re-held out when the NCAA notified KU specifically, or just when a federal trial of all things dug up dirt that the NCAA’s own clearinghouse didn’t?

IIRC, KU immediately contacted NCAA after some of the trial stuff leaked and the NCAA wouldn't say one way or the other. So, KU played it safe and sat him out until the NCAA made the decision to drop the egregious 2 year hammer mid-season.

[ousdahl]

yeah, exactly.

It wasn’t like the NCAA was on top of their shit.

And IIRC THE 2 year suspension was announced at 4:59pm on the Friday before the super bowl