We Lost the Battle for the Republican Party’s Soul Long Ago

[Deleted User 863]

So are we agreeing "many colleges and universities are probably liberal"?

Sorta seems like it, which makes it strange you want to argue about it.

[Deleted User 89]

[jhawks99]

Youz too shuld probubly ignur each odder.

[Deleted User 863]

Who knew the word "probably" got you so triggered.

Work on some concentrated breathing techniques until you regain your composure. I am worried your current meltdown may result in you running off for a few weeks because pdub won't ban anyone who calls you out on dumb posts (which i know is typically your job around here).

[Deleted User 89]

[Deleted User 863]

Oh boy. He's quoting himself now.

Mid day meltdown in full swing. LOL

[Deleted User 89]

what’s your next (5th?) user name gonna be, illy?

[Deleted User 89]

actually, you should just make it “deleted user”

[Deleted User 863]

Rapid fire meltdown!

Yes!!!

[ousdahl]

actually, you should just make it “deleted user”

On a related note, I’ve been thinking about creating a sock that is simply named “sock”

[chiknbut]

actually, you should just make it “deleted user”

On a related note, I’ve been thinking about creating a sock that is simply named “sock”

I need a ruling on this post - is this a "rapid fire meltdown" or not? Judges?

[Deleted User 89]

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-tren ... ucation-2/

A new Pew Research Center survey finds that only half of American adults think colleges and universities are having a positive effect on the way things are going in the country these days. About four-in-ten (38%) say they are having a negative impact – up from 26% in 2012.

The share of Americans saying colleges and universities have a negative effect has increased by 12 percentage points since 2012. The increase in negative views has come almost entirely from Republicans and independents who lean Republican. From 2015 to 2019, the share saying colleges have a negative effect on the country went from 37% to 59% among this group. Over that same period, the views of Democrats and independents who lean Democratic have remained largely stable and overwhelmingly positive.

Gallup found a similar shift in views about higher education. Between 2015 and 2018, the share of Americans saying they had a great deal or quite a lot of confidence in higher education dropped from 57% to 48%, and the falloff was greater among Republicans (from 56% to 39%) than among Democrats (68% to 62%).

Two additional Pew Research Center surveys underscore the partisan gap in views about higher education. In late 2018, 84% of Democrats and independents who lean to the Democratic Party said they have a great deal or a fair amount of confidence in college and university professors to act in the best interests of the public. Only about half (48%) of Republicans and Republican leaners said the same. In fact, 19% of Republicans said they have no confidence at all in college professors to act in the public interest. And in early 2019, 87% of Democrats – but fewer than half (44%) of Republicans – said colleges and universities are open to a wide range of opinions and viewpoints.

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Another national survey conducted last year by Boston-based WGBH News looked more closely at views about the political climate at colleges and universities. A majority of adults (59%) said politics on college campuses lean toward a particular viewpoint, while 28% said campuses are nonpartisan. Of those who thought politics lean toward one particular viewpoint, 77% said they lean liberal, while 15% said they lean conservative. About half (47%) of those who see an ideological tilt at colleges and universities said this is a major problem, while 32% said it’s a minor problem.

These views differed substantially by party. A majority of Democrats (60%) said students are hearing a full range of viewpoints on college campuses, but only 26% of Republicans shared that view.2 In addition, Republicans were much more likely than Democrats to see a political leaning on college campuses: 72% of Republicans compared with 48% of Democrats said campuses lean toward one particular viewpoint. Among those who saw a political leaning, majorities of Republicans (85%) and Democrats (68%) said campuses lean more liberal than conservative. But Republicans were much more likely than Democrats to say that campuses leaning toward a particular viewpoint is a major problem – 67% of Republicans vs. 26% Democrats said this...

[Mjl]

I question the ROI for college, depending on what a person wants to do and their values.

I think too many people go to college given the current prices.

[Deleted User 89]

yup

[TDub]

Agreed

[ousdahl]

Yeah, I think there are serious issues with ROI, particularly depending on the major.

I think colleges became less about preparing students for careers, and more about tuition revenue.

But I also hesitate to believe that is the primary reason why republicans don’t like em.

[TDub]

Republicans dont like universities? Link?

[ousdahl]

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-tren ... ucation-2/

[TDub]

That doesnt indicate that republicans dont like universities. It indicates they dont like the direction they are trending and the value they are providing. Furthermore, it indicates that a slim majority of all people (52%) feel the same regardless of political affiliation.

[sdoyel]

Mike Pence trying to remain relevant. LULZ…