COVID-19 - On the Ground

[randylahey]

obviously, neither mich nor randy have moved on...despite their proclamations to the contrary

What's killing me is that while Randy insists that Covid is not dangerous and not a big deal and insults anyone who says otherwise as a coward. Then he simultaneously defends people who don't get vaccinated out of fear of safety.

The virus has killed more than 4 million people
The vaccine has been loosely associated with a tiny number of deaths after 3 Billion doses.

Yet you're a pussy if you think Covid matters and a heroic patriot if you are scared of a safe shot.

You're misunderstanding. Im defending people's right to not get vaccinated because it really isn't necessary. Has nothing to do with whether or not they are afraid of vaccine risk

[PhDhawk]

well that's dumb and wrong.

[randylahey]

If a person can takes a realistic look at covid itself they should realize that the odds of it not having much of an effect on them are overwhelmingly in their favor. So its logical for them to decide they don't really need the vaccine. Its their choice

[randylahey]

This thread is turning more and more into a PHD support thread. How do we convince this guy its going to be ok

[jhawks99]

Things are not ok for 611,000 and their families. And that's just the US.

[Deleted User 89]

c’mon, randy!

i thought you’d turned the page and had moved on?

yet, here you are...

[randylahey]

Things are not ok for 611,000 and their families. And that's just the US.

A big percentage of those deaths were people that likely could have died this year anyway. Covid deaths are overwhelmingly people in poor health due to age, medical conditions, etc. Yes death is sad, but just a normal part of the human experience

[Deleted User 89]

so dumb

edit: it’s like randy only hears/reads parts of posts that support his narrow view

[randylahey]

c’mon, randy!

i thought you’d turned the page and had moved on?

yet, here you are...

Its become too entertaining. PHD needs daddy here to remind him it'll be ok

[PhDhawk]

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/n ... 1023331824

The average life expectancy in the United States is 9.1 years for 80-year-old white women and 7.0 years for 80-year-old white men.

Probably wouldn't have died THIS year.

[Deleted User 89]

c’mon, randy!

i thought you’d turned the page and had moved on?

yet, here you are...

Its become too entertaining. PHD needs daddy here to remind him it'll be ok

riiiight...

[randylahey]

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/n ... 1023331824

The average life expectancy in the United States is 9.1 years for 80-year-old white women and 7.0 years for 80-year-old white men.

Probably wouldn't have died THIS year.

What kind of nonsense is this statistic? If you hit 80 you live for an average of either 9.1/7 more years? You do realize 89.1 or 87 is well over life expectancy right

[PhDhawk]

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/n ... 1023331824

The average life expectancy in the United States is 9.1 years for 80-year-old white women and 7.0 years for 80-year-old white men.

Probably wouldn't have died THIS year.

What kind of nonsense is this statistic? If you hit 80 you live for an average of either 9.1/7 more years? You do realize 89.1 or 87 is well over life expectancy right

You just can't help but show how stupid you are can you?

You don't unerstand mathematics AT All and that's the problem.

I didn't make that number up, It's there in the New England Journal of Medicine, a peer-reviewed journal.

Life expectancy in the US is about 78 years. But that number includes people who died as infants, or as teenagers, or in their 50s as well as people who lived to be 100. But people dying young, whether it be from accidents or natural causes brings that number down. If you're 74 it doesn't mean you only have 4 years to live, an individual's life expectancy slides up as they get older. It's very simple and obvious mathematics.

A person who is 45 has a longer life expectancy overall than a person who is 25. Because a person who is 25 could die during the next 20 years but the person who's 45 has already cleared that hurdle. So it's statistically more likely that the 45 year old will live to a higher age (not live longer from today than, but be older at the time of death than) the 25 year old.

If you are 80, the 78 year life expectancy is irrelevant. You're past that point. So when you take 80 year olds and estimate how much longer they'll live, for white males in the US it's 7 more years, and for white females in the US it's about 9 years.

The point being the average 80 isn't just sitting around waiting to die, (sure some are, but many will live another 5, 10, 15, or 20 years)

This highlights a bigger problem. when you're too dumb to understand something factual instead of trying to figure it out, you just assume it's wrong. I mean, you could've clicked the link and tried to understand but you didn't because you're dumb.

[Deleted User 89]

it’s not even willful ignorance at this point, it’s defiant ignorance

some “good”, factual stuff in here

https://us17.campaign-archive.com/?u=2c ... df5b9a5e0f

the situation in Africa though...ugh

(shoutout to researchers at the U of U for the animation)

“The message to those who remain unvaccinated should be: Don’t let the virus use you to harm others.”

[MICHHAWK]

i'm fully vaccinated. i no longer recognize the mans mandates. he can stickem.

[sdoyel]

I wish the USA had implemented some sort of phone APP like other countries did so that you could have a virutal vaccination card. The one we've been issued is too big for a wallet. I usually just keep a photo of it on my phone.

[Deleted User 89]

mich is such a rebel [without a cause]

[MICHHAWK]

I wish the USA had implemented some sort of phone APP like other countries did so that you could have a virutal vaccination card. The one we've been issued is too big for a wallet. I usually just keep a photo of it on my phone.

in your day to day, has someone asked you to produce your vaxx card?

[sdoyel]

I wish the USA had implemented some sort of phone APP like other countries did so that you could have a virutal vaccination card. The one we've been issued is too big for a wallet. I usually just keep a photo of it on my phone.

in your day to day, has someone asked you to produce your vaxx card?

No, but that doesn't mean it won't happen in the future. Then again you crazies don't like "government control"...

[zsn]

I wish the USA had implemented some sort of phone APP like other countries did so that you could have a virutal vaccination card. The one we've been issued is too big for a wallet. I usually just keep a photo of it on my phone.

in your day to day, has someone asked you to produce your vaxx card?

Yes. Not mine exactly but my wife’s. She is traveling overseas and the airline had her upload proof of vaccination and negative Covid test as a condition of boarding (destination government rules). If I was the passenger then they would have asked for my card.

Also my PCP asked to upload as soon as we got vaccinated for our medical record