Afghanistan

[twocoach]

It was a comment about how similar some of the platform stances between the GOP and the Taliban are. There are many GOP states actively making changes to laws to reduce women's rights, rights of the LGBTQ community, etc... that is not false. It is 100% true.

Yes, this obviously could have been done "better". Biden and his team should have been more skeptical of any opinion given to them that the Afghan military was ready, willing and capable to take over. They were none of those things.

Sorry. Hard to take someone serious who thinks the GOP and Taliban are similar.

Have a great day B!

Their platforms are far more similar than you're choosing to admit.

[Deleted User 863]

It was a comment about how similar some of the platform stances between the GOP and the Taliban are. There are many GOP states actively making changes to laws to reduce women's rights, rights of the LGBTQ community, etc... that is not false. It is 100% true.

Yes, this obviously could have been done "better". Biden and his team should have been more skeptical of any opinion given to them that the Afghan military was ready, willing and capable to take over. They were none of those things.

Sorry. Hard to take someone serious who thinks the GOP and Taliban are similar.

Have a great day B!

Their platforms are far more similar than you're choosing to admit.

No they're not.

The GOP platform is way closer to the DEM platform than the Taliban platform. Jesus christ you sound like a looney tune.

[japhy]

I don't think there's any serious person who would say that this is all one party's fault or the other's.

Agreed.

Plenty of blame to go around. And also, some of this really doesn't need blame to be placed on anyone. It's just the nature of the beast in that region. Hard to help people who hate you.

I think there is plenty of blame to be placed on everyone in this country, on our society in general. It's the nature of OUR beast to support this shit and we empower politicians who pander to our worst nature.

Seriously; we can't find the will or the money to solve our own internal issues but we can conjure up plenty of cash to blow up shit and scar another country's people forever. Then we call those who give their lives for this boondoggle the title of "heroes" so that it somehow makes tossing their lives into a dumpster fire a noble thing.

It is a national disgrace.

[Deleted User 89]

Hard to disagree with that.

Yup. He sure does. Biden owns the exit strategy. It happened on his watch. His team developed it. His team implemented it (or lack thereof). What is happening right now Biden owns.


But Biden isn't responsible for the entire Afghanistan mess.

Are you purposely trying to ignore any nuance to the discussion?

right, cuz that’s exactly what’s going on

if that’s your stance, then you’ve done a pretty piss-poor job of illustrating as much

at least until now, after getting called out

[Deleted User 863]

Yup. He sure does. Biden owns the exit strategy. It happened on his watch. His team developed it. His team implemented it (or lack thereof). What is happening right now Biden owns.


But Biden isn't responsible for the entire Afghanistan mess.

Are you purposely trying to ignore any nuance to the discussion?

right, cuz that’s exactly what’s going on

if that’s your stance, then you’ve done a pretty piss-poor job of illustrating as much

at least until now, after getting called out

Considering this thread was created on August 15th I thought it was sort of obvious we are talking about what is going on in Afghanistan right now rather than what was going on 20 years ago.

You just aren't happy people are criticizing your team.

[Deleted User 89]

what team?

jfc...go back and read the thread, dipshit

there has been ample discussion about he past 20 years, not just the withdrawal

edit: if you actually cared to read and understand perspectives other than your own, you’d likely remember that i criticized Biden early on but also said that there was plenty of blame to go around

again, sorry that the truth doesn’t fit your narrative

[Deleted User 863]

again, sorry that the truth doesn’t fit your narrative

The comment you keep quoting was about the exit strategy or lack thereof.

[Deleted User 863]

You're just mad because after 4 years of you guys saying "Trump owns this" about anything and everything (some deserved and some not so much) that Mich flipped it on you.

Biden owns the exit strategy mess. Period.

[ousdahl]

I know we’re saying things like we “wasted” money and lives there and what went wrong, but pretty sure the military industrial complex considers the last 20 years an enormous win.

Do they?

Which parts?

The majority of actual soldiers who risk their lives don't seem to think so...but that is just a small part of the "military industrial complex" you're mentioning.

Also, is this military industrial complex you speak of similar to the "deep state"?

Saying “the majority of actual soldiers who risk their lives don’t seem to think so” is like saying “the majority of Amazon workers don’t seem to think the company is succeeding.”

We’re not talking about the rank and file pawns here though. Theyre not the ones who picked the fight.

Follow the money.



(Oh, and look up “Cheney Halliburton” too)

[MICHHAWK]

Biden owns the exit strategy mess. Period.

old reliable uncle joe is sitting in the big boy chair. lets list all the things old reliable stabilizing adults are back in the room uncle joe owns today:

afghanistan
the fungus
the border

but we are only 8 months in. so there is hope for a turnaround.

[jfish26]

Biden owns the exit strategy mess. Period.

old reliable uncle joe is sitting in the big boy chair. lets list all the things old reliable stabilizing adults are back in the room uncle joe owns today:

afghanistan
the fungus
the border

but we are only 8 months in. so there is hope for a turnaround.

(You're not helping your cause here at all.)

[Overlander]

Biden owns the exit strategy mess. Period.

old reliable uncle joe is sitting in the big boy chair. lets list all the things old reliable stabilizing adults are back in the room uncle joe owns today:

afghanistan
the fungus
the border

but we are only 8 months in. so there is hope for a turnaround.

Probably not the stupidist thing you will say today, but you came off the blocks strong.

[Deleted User 863]

Biden owns the exit strategy mess. Period.

old reliable uncle joe is sitting in the big boy chair. lets list all the things old reliable stabilizing adults are back in the room uncle joe owns today:

afghanistan
the fungus
the border

but we are only 8 months in. so there is hope for a turnaround.

Probably not the stupidist thing you will say today, but you came off the blocks strong.

[sdoyel]

[Deleted User 887]

[Deleted User 863]

Dead.

[ousdahl]

[Deleted User 863]

You ever wonder if we are moving from the military industrial complex into the pharmaceutical/medical industrial complex?

Not to get all Qusdahlish early in the morning, but....

[ousdahl]

Didn’t I put some tweet in the radicalization thread about how pharma companies are price gouging countries on the vax?

yet the “people over profits” crowd gets labeled as the radicals

[Deleted User 902]

Classic Qusdahl