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[Mjl]

I don't see a problem with that.
It's very different from your landlords-are-evil tone.

[Mjl]

Not to change topics cuz I know how much we all love landlords, but…wut?

It’s almost like this imbalance of power is systemic

You realize correlation and causation are different... Right?

[ousdahl]

How does correlation and causation apply there?

And yea, I don’t think all landlords are inherently evil. I just think they get a position of disproportionate power and leverage. It’s not like the background checks go both ways.

There is some gripe among the socialist memes that maybe housing should be treated more like an essential right and less like just another commodity, but you’ll have to take that one up with Qusdahl

[Mjl]

Paragraph 1: It assumes he lost his verification beCAUSE he supported strikers.

P2: You should read your local laws around renting. I know with the ones in Chicago, it is extremely inaccurate to say the landlord has the power and leverage. You really should - yours is probably in violation given your complaints.

P3:. We have socialized housing. Tax money is used to subsidize low income housing. Unless you're saying everyone should get the same accomodations. Which would be extremely dumb.

[PhDhawk]

I agree with all this. It is a two way street.

And yeah, to MJL's point, lots of states have different laws about renting. Some of them strongly favor the tenants.

When I was in New Haven every building above a certain size had to allocate a % of units to lower income individuals. I chose to live in a brand new highrise cause I thought it would be cool, like gutter, so rent was pretty high. I understood the cities policy on providing lower income housing besides just the shitty subsidized housing that inevitably became bad neighborhoods, but it also felt really unfair knowing that I was paying $2,000 a month for the same apartment someone else was getting for $600/month. It also sucked because you knew it drove up average rent because it reduced supply with the same level of demand, and landlords needed to make up for those losses.

Is that fair, Qusdahl?

[ousdahl]

I mean, there’s a lot of nuances, but I guess a big part of the imbalance is the recourse.

Sure, both parties can take the other to court if the terms of the lease are not met. But how realistic is court? Is it a prompt resolution? Do both parties have the resources to take legal action?

Are there other nuances to consider, like regardless of the court verdict you’re probably gonna piss off the person you otherwise have to rely on for a roof over your head?

If a tenant craps out on rent, the landlord can call and have the cops kick them out. Can a tenant call the cops if the landlord is crapping out on water bills or a broken furnace? And even if they could, again, what are the unintended consequences for a tenant?

And, the ultimate recourse - if a landlord is fed up, they can kick you out. If a tenant is fed up, they can kick themselves out. That’s quite the imbalance, no?

I mean, you’d have to be awful pissed at a landlord to voluntarily accept homelessness. And that’s what it is, too.

It’s not exactly as simple as just another market choice where you can go down the street and get a Wendy’s burger if you don’t feel like a McDonald’s burger. Or rather, that Wendy’s burger doesn’t also require you to literally uproot your entire life.

That’s much of what landlording is - it’s taking the threat of homelessness and spinning into your own little for-profit ticket scalping hustle.

[ousdahl]

And back to Frank Reynolds and Twitter - ok, the official response is he lost his verified badge cuz his account info was incomplete - you know, no phone or email on file, somehow

So apparently it was just a coincidence that they stripped him of his badge right at the same time he’s speaking up for unions. That’s plausible, sure.

[Mjl]

And back to Frank Reynolds and Twitter - ok, the official response is he lost his verified badge cuz his account info was incomplete - you know, no phone or email on file, somehow

So apparently it was just a coincidence that they stripped him of his badge right at the same time he’s speaking up for unions. That’s plausible, sure.

Yes, it's not just plausible, it's also very likely.

[Mjl]

I mean, there’s a lot of nuances, but I guess a big part of the imbalance is the recourse.

Sure, both parties can take the other to court if the terms of the lease are not met. But how realistic is court? Is it a prompt resolution? Do both parties have the resources to take legal action?

Are there other nuances to consider, like regardless of the court verdict you’re probably gonna piss off the person you otherwise have to rely on for a roof over your head?

If a tenant craps out on rent, the landlord can call and have the cops kick them out. Can a tenant call the cops if the landlord is crapping out on water bills or a broken furnace? And even if they could, again, what are the unintended consequences for a tenant?

And, the ultimate recourse - if a landlord is fed up, they can kick you out. If a tenant is fed up, they can kick themselves out. That’s quite the imbalance, no?

I mean, you’d have to be awful pissed at a landlord to voluntarily accept homelessness. And that’s what it is, too.

It’s not exactly as simple as just another market choice where you can go down the street and get a Wendy’s burger if you don’t feel like a McDonald’s burger. Or rather, that Wendy’s burger doesn’t also require you to literally uproot your entire life.

That’s much of what landlording is - it’s taking the threat of homelessness and spinning into your own little for-profit ticket scalping hustle.

There are other places to rent.
You can absolutely take your landlord to court and win.
Landlords in most places can't just call the cops and kick you out.

[ousdahl]

And back to Frank Reynolds and Twitter - ok, the official response is he lost his verified badge cuz his account info was incomplete - you know, no phone or email on file, somehow

So apparently it was just a coincidence that they stripped him of his badge right at the same time he’s speaking up for unions. That’s plausible, sure.

Yes, it's not just plausible, it's also very likely.

It is also very likely, yes!

And still very coincidental.

[PhDhawk]

I mean, there’s a lot of nuances, but I guess a big part of the imbalance is the recourse.

Sure, both parties can take the other to court if the terms of the lease are not met. But how realistic is court? Is it a prompt resolution? Do both parties have the resources to take legal action?

Are there other nuances to consider, like regardless of the court verdict you’re probably gonna piss off the person you otherwise have to rely on for a roof over your head?

If a tenant craps out on rent, the landlord can call and have the cops kick them out. Can a tenant call the cops if the landlord is crapping out on water bills or a broken furnace? And even if they could, again, what are the unintended consequences for a tenant?

And, the ultimate recourse - if a landlord is fed up, they can kick you out. If a tenant is fed up, they can kick themselves out. That’s quite the imbalance, no?

I mean, you’d have to be awful pissed at a landlord to voluntarily accept homelessness. And that’s what it is, too.

It’s not exactly as simple as just another market choice where you can go down the street and get a Wendy’s burger if you don’t feel like a McDonald’s burger. Or rather, that Wendy’s burger doesn’t also require you to literally uproot your entire life.

That’s much of what landlording is - it’s taking the threat of homelessness and spinning into your own little for-profit ticket scalping hustle.

If the landlord does something that breaks the lease, yes you can leave and find a new place.

And leases last a year, and usually go month to month after that. It's not like you're signing soem lifetime contract.

Remember, if you hab $1200/month rend and you get evicted, you can put that $1200 to the new place, you don't keep paying rent on the apartment you got kicked out of, so I'm not sure how you can say they threaten you with homelessness. At the very least there should be some amount of time given to allow you to properly move out.

Also, landlords are people. Some are assholes some are not. Often in my experience you can explain your situation and reason with them. Get your last month prorated cause you need to leave on a weird date, or maybe they negotiate how much you owe on an apartment if you need to leave before the lease is up? They're not all Mr Potter from it's a wonderful life.

[PhDhawk]

And back to Frank Reynolds and Twitter - ok, the official response is he lost his verified badge cuz his account info was incomplete - you know, no phone or email on file, somehow

So apparently it was just a coincidence that they stripped him of his badge right at the same time he’s speaking up for unions. That’s plausible, sure.

Why would twitter care if he's speaking up for unions?

Twitter is notoriously left leaning anyway.

[ousdahl]

I dunno about you guys, but I think moving is a giant pain in the ass.

You’re making it sound as simple as choosing a different burger joint.

[PhDhawk]

I dunno about you guys, but I think moving is a giant pain in the ass.

You’re making it sound as simple as choosing a different burger joint.

I hate moving. It's the worst.

I've moved 9 times in the past 16 years.

And yes, it's not like choosing a burger joint, so you should do your due dilligence when apartment hunting, read reviews, talk to people, get referrals, be thorough when you tour a place, etc.

[TDub]

I mean, there’s a lot of nuances, but I guess a big part of the imbalance is the recourse.

Sure, both parties can take the other to court if the terms of the lease are not met. But how realistic is court? Is it a prompt resolution? Do both parties have the resources to take legal action?

Are there other nuances to consider, like regardless of the court verdict you’re probably gonna piss off the person you otherwise have to rely on for a roof over your head?

If a tenant craps out on rent, the landlord can call and have the cops kick them out. Can a tenant call the cops if the landlord is crapping out on water bills or a broken furnace? And even if they could, again, what are the unintended consequences for a tenant?

And, the ultimate recourse - if a landlord is fed up, they can kick you out. If a tenant is fed up, they can kick themselves out. That’s quite the imbalance, no?

I mean, you’d have to be awful pissed at a landlord to voluntarily accept homelessness. And that’s what it is, too.

It’s not exactly as simple as just another market choice where you can go down the street and get a Wendy’s burger if you don’t feel like a McDonald’s burger. Or rather, that Wendy’s burger doesn’t also require you to literally uproot your entire life.

That’s much of what landlording is - it’s taking the threat of homelessness and spinning into your own little for-profit ticket scalping hustle.

I think youre quick to yell unfair about things with which you have very little experience or actual knowledge.

[ousdahl]

And back to Frank Reynolds and Twitter - ok, the official response is he lost his verified badge cuz his account info was incomplete - you know, no phone or email on file, somehow

So apparently it was just a coincidence that they stripped him of his badge right at the same time he’s speaking up for unions. That’s plausible, sure.

Why would twitter care if he's speaking up for unions?

Twitter is notoriously left leaning anyway.

Yeah, the whole thing is peculiar.

Perhaps the question is, how frequently does Twitter strip badges, and what’s the typical process.

If, say, they had been bugging Frank with repeated requests to update his phone and email, and Frank had neglected cuz he was too busy bangin hoorz, then that def adds context.

[ousdahl]

aaaand here comes tdub to tell me my experiences are invalid again.

[PhDhawk]

And back to Frank Reynolds and Twitter - ok, the official response is he lost his verified badge cuz his account info was incomplete - you know, no phone or email on file, somehow

So apparently it was just a coincidence that they stripped him of his badge right at the same time he’s speaking up for unions. That’s plausible, sure.

Why would twitter care if he's speaking up for unions?

Twitter is notoriously left leaning anyway.

Yeah, the whole thing is peculiar.

Perhaps the question is, how frequently does Twitter strip badges, and what’s the typical process.

If, say, they had been bugging Frank with repeated requests to update his phone and email, and Frank had neglected cuz he was too busy bangin hoorz, then that def adds context.

I dunno, I hear people on podcasts, and shit talk about it all the time. I think it's common to have the blue checks come and go, and sometimes they go to unfamous people and not to famous people and so on.

Also, does it matter?

[ousdahl]

I dunno about you guys, but I think moving is a giant pain in the ass.

You’re making it sound as simple as choosing a different burger joint.

I hate moving. It's the worst.

I've moved 9 times in the past 16 years.

And yes, it's not like choosing a burger joint, so you should do your due dilligence when apartment hunting, read reviews, talk to people, get referrals, be thorough when you tour a place, etc.

Just remember to order no cheese on your next apartment

(And yeah the Frank story isn’t worth much either way)

[TDub]

I dunno about you guys, but I think moving is a giant pain in the ass.

You’re making it sound as simple as choosing a different burger joint.

Between 2001 and 2015 i moved 13 times...and 2 more since 15. Yea it sucks, its life. You do what needs to be done. Or you do nothing and complain about it here....