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sdoyel wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:15 pm Look at the pathetic turnout for the far right wing rally. It’s over. Dead. Done.
yet you and your ilk continue to beat the drum that "the orange man and his army of white supremists are coming for you in 2024."

you russian bots peddling your hysteria are the last to know.
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:17 pm
sdoyel wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:13 pm Of course it wasn’t coordinated. That’s why it wasn’t successful.
It wasn't successful because that's not how it works. Those who control that building do not control our country/government/military. Those things are required to "overthrow the government".
You're missing the point.

These dumbfucks didn't know that. That's why they were there... They are too dumb to realize what they were doing wasn't going to be successful.
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MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:19 pm
sdoyel wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:15 pm Look at the pathetic turnout for the far right wing rally. It’s over. Dead. Done.
yet you and your ilk continue to beat the drum that "the orange man and his army of white supremists are coming for you in 2024."

you russian bots peddling your hysteria are the last to know.
When I have a pesky fly bothering me, I kill it. I don't let it keep buzzing around, annoying me...
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:17 pm
sdoyel wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:13 pm Of course it wasn’t coordinated. That’s why it wasn’t successful.
It wasn't successful because that's not how it works. Those who control that building do not control our country/government/military. Those things are required to "overthrow the government".
just stop

none of what you said matters, despite your ad nauseum repetition

they had intent and attempt. that’s all that matters when it ones to insurrection and sedition. neither requires success
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In a way, I think the ones most vulnerable to the orange man and his army of white supremacists in 2024, are the GOP
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sdoyel wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:20 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:17 pm
sdoyel wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:13 pm Of course it wasn’t coordinated. That’s why it wasn’t successful.
It wasn't successful because that's not how it works. Those who control that building do not control our country/government/military. Those things are required to "overthrow the government".
You're missing the point.

These dumbfucks didn't know that. That's why they were there... They are too dumb to realize what they were doing wasn't going to be successful.
all he does is miss the point, intentional or otherwise

hence the constant arguments and 15 posts saying the same thing

whether or not they succeeded DOES NOT MATTER

if a hijacker attempts to take a plane over, but can’t get into the cockpit, they’re still guilty
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sdoyel wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:20 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:17 pm
sdoyel wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:13 pm Of course it wasn’t coordinated. That’s why it wasn’t successful.
It wasn't successful because that's not how it works. Those who control that building do not control our country/government/military. Those things are required to "overthrow the government".
You're missing the point.

These dumbfucks didn't know that. That's why they were there... They are too dumb to realize what they were doing wasn't going to be successful.
Maybe you're also missing the point?

According to evidence gathered by law the dumbfucks didn't gather there to "overthrow the government". They gathered there, in a mostly uncoordinated manner (other than date and time), to riot / vandalize / terrorize / and even kill politicians.
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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:24 pm
sdoyel wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:20 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:17 pm

It wasn't successful because that's not how it works. Those who control that building do not control our country/government/military. Those things are required to "overthrow the government".
You're missing the point.

These dumbfucks didn't know that. That's why they were there... They are too dumb to realize what they were doing wasn't going to be successful.
Maybe you're also missing the point?

According to evidence gathered by law the dumbfucks didn't gather there to "overthrow the government". They gathered there, in a mostly uncoordinated manner (other than date and time), to riot / vandalize / terrorize / and even kill politicians.
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TraditionKU wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:23 pm if a hijacker attempts to take a plane over, but can’t get into the cockpit, they’re still guilty
Correct. Because they attempted to hijack the plane.

An attempted plane hijacking does not equal trying to overthrow the leadership of the airline company to assume power over the company. Controlling a plane doesn't equal controlling an entire airline company.

Look at what the insurrectionists are being charged with.
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i’ve not read anything that requires coordination

edit: though it’s been documented that at least some of them were in active communication during the event
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sdoyel wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:20 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:19 pm
sdoyel wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:15 pm Look at the pathetic turnout for the far right wing rally. It’s over. Dead. Done.
yet you and your ilk continue to beat the drum that "the orange man and his army of white supremists are coming for you in 2024."

you russian bots peddling your hysteria are the last to know.
When I have a pesky fly bothering me, I kill it. I don't let it keep buzzing around, annoying me...
You do?

then why do you still have Trumps face as your avatar?
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ousdahl wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:21 pm In a way, I think the ones most vulnerable to the orange man and his army of white supremacists in 2024, are the GOP
the gop knows darn well dt won't get a sniff of 2024.

it's the dems that need to push that narrative to keep the flock hysterical.
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TraditionKU wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:26 pm i’ve not read anything that requires coordination

edit: though it’s been documented that at least some of them were in active communication during the event
Yes about a few dozen of them from what I have read today. And they are being charged more harshly.
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MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:29 pm
ousdahl wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:21 pm In a way, I think the ones most vulnerable to the orange man and his army of white supremacists in 2024, are the GOP
the gop knows darn well dt won't get a sniff of 2024.

it's the dems that need to push that narrative to keep the flock hysterical.
The gop didn’t expect dt to get a sniff of 2016 either
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TraditionKU wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:23 pm the constant arguments and 15 posts saying the same thing
I think that's about the 15th time you've said that line or something similar.

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BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:26 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:23 pm if a hijacker attempts to take a plane over, but can’t get into the cockpit, they’re still guilty
Correct. Because they attempted to hijack the plane.

An attempted plane hijacking does not equal trying to overthrow the leadership of the airline company to assume power over the company. Controlling a plane doesn't equal controlling an entire airline company.

Look at what the insurrectionists are being charged with.
For this plane analogy to work, you’d have to assume something like, that in the cockpit the airline bored of directors were finalizing the details on appointing a new chairman.

It’s a more nuanced than simply harassing the pilot and copilot
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ousdahl wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:33 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:26 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:23 pm if a hijacker attempts to take a plane over, but can’t get into the cockpit, they’re still guilty
Correct. Because they attempted to hijack the plane.

An attempted plane hijacking does not equal trying to overthrow the leadership of the airline company to assume power over the company. Controlling a plane doesn't equal controlling an entire airline company.

Look at what the insurrectionists are being charged with.
For this plane analogy to work, you’d have to assume something like, that in the cockpit the airline bored of directors were finalizing the details on appointing a new chairman.
Ok. So throw that in there. Regardless, it doesn't result in the hijackers becoming the new chairman.
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it's easier to push the narrative that "the orange man and his army of white supremists are coming for us in 2024" than it is to look at your own failures. it's human nature. you think if the flock is hysterical they won't notice what is really going on.

politics 101
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Yea, thank the lord the magaheads weren’t smart or organized enough to actually plan that much out

What was their end game, though? Some very shortsighted and ill-executed attempt to keep Trump in power, right?
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MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:35 pm it's easier to push the narrative that "the orange man and his army of white supremists are coming for us in 2024" than it is to look at your own failures. it's human nature. you think if the flock is hysterical they won't notice what is really going on.

politics 101
I mean, they ARE trying.

But the smart folks know it's over.
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