Would you be on the Jury?

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^^^^
Please, I implore you to be reasonable...
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https://www.npr.org/2021/07/15/10164310 ... sign-in-ut

A Woman Is Facing A Hate Crime Charge Over Stomping On A 'Back The Blue' Sign In Utah
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5 questions of the day!

Is there some competing first amendment issue here?

Does stomping and smirking satisfy the legal “terrorize or intimidate” language?

I know apparently several states say so, but are police among the marginalized groups “on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability” that the federal hate crime laws intend to protect?

2 parter: What sort of precedent could this set? What sort of precedents are already on the books?

On a scale of 1-blizzard, how much of a snowflake is this cop for being intimidated by a teenager’s smirk?
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1972 Iran?
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Wait, what happened in 1972 and why did you run?
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serious though, surprised the civilian wasn’t shot cuz the cop feared for his life
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but for real serious though, this is such a waste of court time and tax payer money...frivolous, imo
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TraditionKU wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:54 pm serious though, surprised the civilian wasn’t shit cuz the cop feared for his life
Know how I know she’s white?
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TIL “badge bending”


Ho-lee shit
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speaking of ketamine, whoa, charges for the cops who killed Elijah McClain?!
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the Georgia DA just got indicted over her handling of the Ahmaud Arbery case
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why would anyone think we still have a race problem in the US?

Missouri high school students allegedly post petition online calling for the return of slavery

(per USAToday)
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FBI raids New York City police union headquarters

Wait.

Wut?


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fb ... s-n1280810
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:11 pm FBI raids New York City police union headquarters

Wait.

Wut?


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fb ... s-n1280810
You didn't know some unions aren't the cleanest?
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Well of course not.

But how often do the cops raid the cops?
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ousdahl wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:29 pm Well of course not.

But how often do the cops raid the cops?
Cops didn't raid cops.

The FBI raided a police union.
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this shit is disturbing and shameful

https://www.propublica.org/article/blac ... esnt-exist

Black Children Were Jailed for a Crime That Doesn’t Exist. Almost Nothing Happened to the Adults in Charge.

apparently all because of a power-hungry (at best) judge with too much control

...The police were at Hobgood because of that video. But they hadn’t come for the boys who threw punches. They were here for the children who looked on. The police in Murfreesboro, a fast-growing city about 30 miles southeast of Nashville, had secured juvenile petitions for 10 children in all who were accused of failing to stop the fight.
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In Rutherford County, a juvenile court judge had been directing police on what she called “our process” for arresting children, and she appointed the jailer, who employed a “filter system” to determine which children to hold.

The judge was proud of what she had helped build, despite some alarming numbers buried in state reports.

Among cases referred to juvenile court, the statewide average for how often children were locked up was 5%.

In Rutherford County, it was 48%...


even the arresting cops question what they're doing

...In the assistant principal’s office at Hobgood, the officer telling Garrett not to get the kids was Chris Williams. Williams, who is Black, had been a Murfreesboro cop for five years. “What in the world?” he thought, when he learned what these arrests were about. At Hobgood, two-thirds of the students were Black or Latino. Williams wondered if such arrests would be made at a school that was mostly white. He had a daughter who was 9. He pictured her being arrested. This is going to blow up, he thought; I’m going to end up in federal court over this. He considered quitting, but instead tried to get someone to intervene. Tucked in an office corner, he called a sergeant, a lieutenant and a major, but couldn’t find anyone to call it off.

The officer not saying anything was Albert Miles III. Growing up, Miles, who is Black, had friends who hated the police. But Miles’ dad was a cop. Miles wanted to prove that police could be trusted. That afternoon, Miles had been pulled out of roll call along with another officer; a sergeant told the two to go arrest some kids at Hobgood. The sergeant didn’t say why, but at Hobgood, Miles started picking up details. Miles, too, wondered if these arrests would happen at a school full of white students...
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When the parent asked why this was happening, Miles had been unable to say. But the answer traces to individual missteps and institutional breakdowns — all on a grand scale.

What happened on that Friday and in the days after, when police rounded up even more kids, would expose an ugly and unsettling culture in Rutherford County, one spanning decades. In the wake of these mass arrests, lawyers would see inside a secretive legal system that’s supposed to protect kids, but in this county did the opposite. Officials flouted the law by wrongfully arresting and jailing children. One of their worst practices was stopped following the events at Hobgood, but the conditions that allowed the lawlessness remain. The adults in charge failed. Yet they’re still in charge. Tennessee’s systems for protecting children failed. Yet they haven’t been fixed...
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I read that a few days ago; it was incredibly disturbing. That Davenport woman should be in prison herself. Religious nutjobs.
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twocoach wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:04 pm I read that a few days ago; it was incredibly disturbing. That Davenport woman should be in prison herself. Religious nutjobs.
and despite a number of red flags, she continues to get re-elected

i have no problem calling her and duke fat, racist, backwoods pigs
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TraditionKU wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:20 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:04 pm I read that a few days ago; it was incredibly disturbing. That Davenport woman should be in prison herself. Religious nutjobs.
and despite a number of red flags, she continues to get re-elected

i have no problem calling her and duke fat, racist, backwoods pigs
Davenport describes her work as a calling. “I’m here on a mission. It’s not a job. It’s God’s mission,” she told a local newspaper.

The evil that is being done to these children under the guise of being "God's work" is beyond the pale.
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