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PhDhawk wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:56 pm
dub needs a codpiece wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:42 pm Tex Ags HC Buzz Williams was just suspended for two games, fined, and put on two years prohibition.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/me ... violations

https://texags.com/s/41062/ncaa-suspend ... violations
turns out the violation was pretending to be bald for his entire Marquette tenure.
Oh Jesus then what are the penalties for pretending not to be bald?

We're doomed.
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Death Penalty. KU Basketball 1898-2021
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NCAA's sky-is-falling NIL rhetoric looks all the more ridiculous now

https://sports.yahoo.com/nca-as-ridicul ... 41799.html
Last Saturday, some 90,887 fans packed Ben Hill Griffin Stadium to watch the Florida Gators play the Alabama Crimson Tide. It was the fifth-largest home crowd in UF history.

Across the country, 7.9 million tuned into the CBS broadcast, which is 10% higher than the 2019 average of 7.1 million for the network, which itself was the highest in nearly three decades.

That’s one game, of course, but just hours later 109,958 people saw Penn State defeat Auburn in person while 7.6 million watched on ABC. A week prior, Oregon-Ohio State put up 100,482 and 7.73 million, respectively. The week before that Clemson-Georgia delivered 8.8 million television viewers and Notre Dame-Florida State got 7.6 million.

This must have all come as a shock to decades of NCAA lawyers, fear-mongering conference commissioners and parrot-the-company-line-to-protect-the-bottom-one athletic directors who swore — literally in Supreme Court filings even — that college sports fans would no longer be college sports fans if the athletes were allowed to profit off their name, image and likeness.

Except the players now can. And the fans are still here.

It’s almost like the establishment made up a sky-will-fall panic.

[...]

[NCAA lawyer Seth] Waxman even cited an NCAA-funded study that “tested people’s reaction to giving [athletes] … a $10,000 academic award [which concluded that] something like 10% of the respondents said they would be less interested and would watch less if that’s the case.”

Please. No one possibly could have believed such a ridiculous survey. It was as absurd as when then-Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany, while discussing O’Bannon v. NCAA, claimed his league might go non-scholarship Division III if forced into any kind of “pay-for-play” system.

“The Division III model ... would, in my view, be more consistent with the Big Ten’s philosophy,” Delany stated.

Not long after that, Delany collected a $20 million bonus for negotiating a television contract.

Everything was grandstanding and wolf-crying. There were no 10% of fans who were so opposed to an “academic award” that they stopped watching. And no, Ohio State, Michigan and the others are not going D-III.

In the event that college sports has actually lost a fan, it’s probably gained a few back who were ethically opposed to the old system.

[...]

Essentially, this should serve as a reminder to stop believing the reactionary, obstructionist talk that College Sports Inc. leaders love to recite.

This is a group who opposed small monthly stipends to athletes because it would upset competitive balance (it didn’t). The same group who claimed even a four-team playoff would cause dozens of bowl games to immediately shutter (more were added). The same group who warned that NIL would tilt the recruiting to a select few major football and men’s basketball programs.

Early samples don’t indicate any such thing. Inflcr, an Alabama-based company helping schools and athletes navigate the space, found the average deal was under $923 and 53% went to athletes outside of football or basketball anyway.

And there are already signs that NIL will help disperse talent because there is a financial benefit to being the big fish in a smaller pond. Memphis men’s basketball is a nice program but plays in the American Athletic Conference and has never won a national title.

It beat out Duke, North Carolina and Kentucky to sign 2021's top recruiting class in part, coach Penny Hardway said, because of the available NIL money in a Tiger-obsessed city. It also kept the NBA’s G League from poaching recruits.

"You can come to college now and get deals for yourself and learn and develop at the same time," Hardaway said.

That’s good and true for all sports. Four members of the U.S. Olympic gymnastics team, including gold medalist Suni Lee (Auburn), will give college gymnastics a huge boost of star power because they can now compete and make some well-earned endorsement money.

[...]

None of this was difficult to envision. Activists and journalists predicted it for decades. Lawyers argued it for years.

College administrators dug in anyway, as they tend to do. They spent millions on lawyers and kept increasing the alarmist warnings. Eventually it all collapsed like a house of cards of course.

Keep this in mind the next time the NCAA is vehemently opposed to something.
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If you put in a loud digital jukebox with only music from 2010 up in your favorite bar it doesn't bother you until a lot of people start using it.

The day KU swings a 5 star guy and then he lands a huge endorsement deal shortly after is the first day the juke box might bother me enough not to come back to the bar as often.
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pdub wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:30 am If you put in a loud digital jukebox with only music from 2010 up in your favorite bar it doesn't bother you until a lot of people start using it.

The day KU swings a 5 star guy and then he lands a huge endorsement deal shortly after is the first day the juke box might bother me enough not to come back to the bar as often.
Good thing we own a jazz bar without insipid pop music. Phew!
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We’re going to very likely lose our best commit to the pros, but NIL might give us a shot.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:07 am We’re going to very likely lose our best commit to the pros, but NIL might give us a shot.
Which one is that?
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Rice.
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I like how some people will read that article and shrug off the administrators collecting $20 million dollar bonuses so they can instead focus their outrage on student ath-o-letes getting $923
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That was not lost on Dan Wetzel.

Fucking Delaney saying D-III is the ideal model for his conference while getting $20m bonuses from the organization is infuriating.
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So we have a time line for the time line.

https://www.cjonline.com/story/sports/c ... 939739001/

" Kansas Jayhawks fans will learn more in about a week and a half about the status of the investigation that's garnered so much national attention.

Independent Accountability Resolution Process spokesperson Amy Hanna told The Topeka Capital-Journal in an email Thursday the IARP case timelines, which includes the one concerning University of Kansas Athletics, will be published on the IARP website on Oct. 11. The timelines are an attempt to provide a level of transparency when it comes to how the processes have unfolded.

“In response to requests from NCAA member institutions for additional time to review their respective case timelines and prepare anticipated responses to inquiries, the case timelines will be published on the IARP website Oct. 11, 2021,” Hanna said."
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twocoach wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:30 am https://www.cjonline.com/story/sports/c ... 939739001/

" Kansas Jayhawks fans will learn more in about a week and a half about the status of the investigation that's garnered so much national attention.

Independent Accountability Resolution Process spokesperson Amy Hanna told The Topeka Capital-Journal in an email Thursday the IARP case timelines, which includes the one concerning University of Kansas Athletics, will be published on the IARP website on Oct. 11. The timelines are an attempt to provide a level of transparency when it comes to how the processes have unfolded.

“In response to requests from NCAA member institutions for additional time to review their respective case timelines and prepare anticipated responses to inquiries, the case timelines will be published on the IARP website Oct. 11, 2021,” Hanna said."
It is so very NCAA to give a timeline on giving a timeline.
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The timelines are an attempt to provide a level of transparency when it comes to how the processes have unfolded lulz
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jfish26 wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:32 am
twocoach wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:30 am https://www.cjonline.com/story/sports/c ... 939739001/

" Kansas Jayhawks fans will learn more in about a week and a half about the status of the investigation that's garnered so much national attention.

Independent Accountability Resolution Process spokesperson Amy Hanna told The Topeka Capital-Journal in an email Thursday the IARP case timelines, which includes the one concerning University of Kansas Athletics, will be published on the IARP website on Oct. 11. The timelines are an attempt to provide a level of transparency when it comes to how the processes have unfolded.

“In response to requests from NCAA member institutions for additional time to review their respective case timelines and prepare anticipated responses to inquiries, the case timelines will be published on the IARP website Oct. 11, 2021,” Hanna said."
It is so very NCAA to give a timeline on giving a timeline.
It takes a lot for me to blush at milking the billable hour, but my gosh.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:47 am
jfish26 wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:32 am
twocoach wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:30 am https://www.cjonline.com/story/sports/c ... 939739001/

" Kansas Jayhawks fans will learn more in about a week and a half about the status of the investigation that's garnered so much national attention.

Independent Accountability Resolution Process spokesperson Amy Hanna told The Topeka Capital-Journal in an email Thursday the IARP case timelines, which includes the one concerning University of Kansas Athletics, will be published on the IARP website on Oct. 11. The timelines are an attempt to provide a level of transparency when it comes to how the processes have unfolded.

“In response to requests from NCAA member institutions for additional time to review their respective case timelines and prepare anticipated responses to inquiries, the case timelines will be published on the IARP website Oct. 11, 2021,” Hanna said."
It is so very NCAA to give a timeline on giving a timeline.
It takes a lot for me to blush at milking the billable hour, but my gosh.
Oh, you know there have been calls/meetings about giving a timeline to giving a timeline.
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I’ll get back to you about scheduling a time to get back to you.
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"Circulate that timeline so we can circle back on it every Thursday afternoon."
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Has anyone put a pin in that timeline? I understand that makes circling back much easier.
I only came to kick some ass...

Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
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PhDhawk wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:13 pm Has anyone put a pin in that timeline? I understand that makes circling back much easier.
Just need to socialize it with the small group.
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this seems as good a place as any

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... tournament

huggy bear wants major conferences to create their own post-season tourney
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