COVID-19 - On the Ground

[PhDhawk]

If Rodgers had done a better assessment from the beginning and been vaccinated this would all be moot.

[pdub]

It is his body.
He's dumb and it may cost the Packers a win ( and Cascadia effect, a home playoff game, and then a title ) - but it is his body.

He has the right to those decisions.

[PhDhawk]

He could amputate all four limbs too.

I'd feel comfortable saying that was a wrong decision too. But at least that wouldn't unnecessarily put others in increased danger.

[pdub]

He could.
But there'd be so much straw coming out of that man then that we could start a pillow stuffing business.

[PhDhawk]

Henry Ruggs was putting alcohol in his own body too, and drove his own car with his own loaded gun with his own body too. I think he made a dumb decision too.

If that means I'm on a witch hunt, I'm comfortable with that.

[sdoyel]

[pdub]

Look at all this straw.

[sdoyel]

We are here because Trump turned this into a political nightmare.

[PhDhawk]

You're grossly downplaying the severity of SARS-COV-2 and grossly downplaying the efficacy of the vaccine to justify your argument.

[pdub]

( and i'm guessing next up is the reference to the number of deaths in the USA and round and round we go -- does not change that A. LOLing, ridiculing those who suffer from COVID after not getting vaxxed helps nothing B. wanting those who don't get vaccinated to suffer professionally helps nothing -- which is the general base of my argument tonight )

[PhDhawk]

Over 700,000 Americans have died from covid. In a normal year 10-11,000 Americans die in fatal alcohol related car accidents.

A salient argument can be made that not getting vaccinated is more dangerous and irresponsible than driving drunk.

[PhDhawk]

( and i'm guessing next up is the reference to the number of deaths in the USA and round and round we go -- does not change that A. LOLing, ridiculing those who suffer from COVID after not getting vaxxed helps nothing B. wanting those who don't get vaccinated to suffer professionally helps nothing -- which is the general base of my argument tonight )

focusing on that just emboldens and supports antivaxxers. Something you do frequently. You're painting them as victims when really they're the problem.

[pdub]

I called it.

[PhDhawk]

I called it.

Because it's true.

[sdoyel]

( and i'm guessing next up is the reference to the number of deaths in the USA and round and round we go -- does not change that A. LOLing, ridiculing those who suffer from COVID after not getting vaxxed helps nothing B. wanting those who don't get vaccinated to suffer professionally helps nothing -- which is the general base of my argument tonight )

What is it supposed to help?

[pdub]

And also no.

I can be open to supporting someone's right to do with their own body by also thinking they are making the wrong decision. I can also say that there is a general feel from one side of the spectrum that is almost ( almost? no, definitely ) gleeful when there is suffering from that wrong decision. And I can also say that I think that's not the best route at getting more people vaccinated.

I'm not painting people as victims -- i'm just saying I don't think the best course of action is hate -- and i'm just not fully agreeing exactly with you.

[pdub]

( and i'm guessing next up is the reference to the number of deaths in the USA and round and round we go -- does not change that A. LOLing, ridiculing those who suffer from COVID after not getting vaxxed helps nothing B. wanting those who don't get vaccinated to suffer professionally helps nothing -- which is the general base of my argument tonight )

What is it supposed to help?

Go read up on a couple core principles of SEL.

[PhDhawk]

And also no.

I can be open to supporting someone's right to do with their own body by also thinking they are making the wrong decision. I can also say that there is a general feel from one side of the spectrum that is almost ( almost? no, definitely ) gleeful when there is suffering from that wrong decision. And I can also say that I think that's not the best route at getting more people vaccinated.

I'm not painting people as victims -- i'm just saying I don't think the best course of action is hate -- and i'm just not fully agreeing exactly with you.

It affects other people. Just like drunk driving, or someone who prepares food not washing their hands.

[pdub]

Don't LOL at people who die from drunk driving.

[PhDhawk]

Don't defend bad behavior that puts others at risk unnecessarily.