Government Shut-Down Thread

[dolomite]

But who cares, they're just assclowns anyway.

I agree 100%.

yeah, exactly. what kind of human piece of shit would ever take a job as a federal employee instead of in the private sector. Every single one of those 4 million federal employees is just a worthless fucking drain on society and a despicable horrible human being. I wish every single one of those motherfuckers bad fortune so those of us that aren't federal employees can feel better about ourselves for having jobs that aren't for the federal government. I mean fuck those assholes am I right? What were they thinking taking a job to feed their families and contribute to society.

I mean, lets say you're a janitor, if you work for a company, well you're a decent human being, but if you have the audacity to be a janitor for the Federal government, then you should be drawn and quartered. Not getting paid for an indefinite amount of time is just a good start as far as I'm concerned and goddam does it make me feel good about my self-righteous ass.

No shit!!!

[twocoach]

What does it say about our society/government/values/etc. that "we" expect some of these employees to show up to work while not getting paid?

Talk about dumb.

Um, there are government jobs that are a requirement for our society to continue to function normally. Every job has a list of pros and cons. Some government jobs simply carry the risk of possibly having to work with payment delayed.

It's not dumb to ask people to accept the risks of their chosen profession and perform their job even in this situation.

Lots of non-governmental jobs carry a risk of not getting paid for the work they perform. Go ask the thousands of contractors who were never got the money owed to them for work done for various Trump construction projects if they are dumb.

link? re Trump construction jobs Or are you drinking kool aid?

Go to google and type "Trump sued by contractor". He has been sued hundreds of times for this. It is common knowledge.

[twocoach]

But who cares, they're just assclowns anyway.

I agree 100%.

I get the whole "screw The Man, the government sucks" but this is a Doug Gottleib-level dumb hot take.

[PhDhawk]

I agree 100%.

yeah, exactly. what kind of human piece of shit would ever take a job as a federal employee instead of in the private sector. Every single one of those 4 million federal employees is just a worthless fucking drain on society and a despicable horrible human being. I wish every single one of those motherfuckers bad fortune so those of us that aren't federal employees can feel better about ourselves for having jobs that aren't for the federal government. I mean fuck those assholes am I right? What were they thinking taking a job to feed their families and contribute to society.

I mean, lets say you're a janitor, if you work for a company, well you're a decent human being, but if you have the audacity to be a janitor for the Federal government, then you should be drawn and quartered. Not getting paid for an indefinite amount of time is just a good start as far as I'm concerned and goddam does it make me feel good about my self-righteous ass.

No shit!!!

I'm glad you could pick up on my sarcasm. Because only a dumbfuck, idiot, piece of shit would actually think that way.

[dolomite]

Um, there are government jobs that are a requirement for our society to continue to function normally. Every job has a list of pros and cons. Some government jobs simply carry the risk of possibly having to work with payment delayed.

It's not dumb to ask people to accept the risks of their chosen profession and perform their job even in this situation.

Lots of non-governmental jobs carry a risk of not getting paid for the work they perform. Go ask the thousands of contractors who were never got the money owed to them for work done for various Trump construction projects if they are dumb.

link? re Trump construction jobs Or are you drinking kool aid?

Go to google and type "Trump sued by contractor". He has been sued hundreds of times for this. It is common knowledge.

https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-proo ... es-hearsay
only sixty times, get your facts straight.

[DCHawk1]

Easy, Park. You're blowing your cover.

[PhDhawk]

But who cares, they're just assclowns anyway.

I agree 100%.

I get the whole "screw The Man, the government sucks" but this is a Doug Gottleib-level dumb hot take.

And it does nothing good. It hurts the economy, those employees will eventually get paid, so it's not even like it reduces government spending or some dumb idea like that. It's actually more costly, it just means a lot of people have it rough not knowing when they'll get paid for their work. It's just dumb assholes taking pleasures in other peoples misfortune. It's a kind of schadenfreude I don't understand at all.

[twocoach]

link? re Trump construction jobs Or are you drinking kool aid?

Go to google and type "Trump sued by contractor". He has been sued hundreds of times for this. It is common knowledge.

https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-proo ... es-hearsay
only sixty times, get your facts straight.

Hundreds of other liens, judgements and court filings in other cases. More than 200 mechanic liens filed by contractors and employees claiming they were owed money. Records released by the Jersey Cssino Control Commission showed at least 253 subcontractors weren't paid in full or on time. And that was just on the one Trump Taj Mahal project. I do have my facts straight, thank you.

24 additional filings for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage. And the number of people who buckled and took much less than owed under the threat of years of litigation is likely astoundingly huge.

So in a nutshell, Trump has never given a flying fuck whether Americans get paid for their work. So long as Trump gets what he wants he doesn't give a shit who he screws over to get it.

[Deleted User 75]

So in a nutshell, Trump has never given a flying fuck whether Americans get paid for their work. So long as Trump gets what he wants he doesn't give a shit who he screws over to get it.

It's not dumb to ask people to accept the risks of their chosen profession

LOL

you're all over the place.

I say it's wrong that people are being forced to work without pay (because politicians are using them as a bargaining chip)....you scold me with 2 paragraphs about pros and cons of jobs.....then this.

[twocoach]

So in a nutshell, Trump has never given a flying fuck whether Americans get paid for their work. So long as Trump gets what he wants he doesn't give a shit who he screws over to get it.

It's not dumb to ask people to accept the risks of their chosen profession

LOL

you're all over the place.

I say it's wrong that people are being forced to work without pay (because politicians are using them as a bargaining chip)....you scold me with 2 paragraphs about pros and cons of jobs.....then this.

Let me try to explain it then. Hopefully you will follow it if it is all together.

It is not dumb to expect some government workers to have to report to work despite the fact that their paychecks are being held ransom by a childish idiot in the Oval Office. Many government jobs are essential for a smooth running society and while I feel horrible for them, such is the nature of their job and Trump is a scumbag for putting them in this position.

It is dumb for a childish idiot to refuse to pay contractors and employees for work rendered simply because he is wealthy enough and morally bankrupt enough to do it. It is also a risk of their job and Trump is a scumbag for doing what he has done for decades.

Better?

[Deleted User 75]

Not paying people for their work is wrong. Period.

Expecting people to work while they're not being paid is wrong. Period.


The government is going to reopen. These people are going to be paid for their work....so why pretend they may not by withholding their pay during the shutdown? It's pointless. Give these people their money for their work. Figure the rest out later.

[Deleted User 75]

Companies going bancrupt is pretty irrelevant to this entire convo. But we've got to turn it into outrage about Trump.

Odd that you're outraged over bancrupt real estate entities but not federal workers who aren't getting paid....

The real victims in this mess are the government workers who aren't being paid, whether they're working or not.

[PhDhawk]

But who cares, they're just assclowns anyway.

I agree 100%.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/42 ... rk-n952066

[twocoach]

Companies going bancrupt is pretty irrelevant to this entire convo. But we've got to turn it into outrage about Trump.

Odd that you're outraged over bancrupt real estate entities but not federal workers who aren't getting paid....

The real victims in this mess are the government workers who aren't being paid, whether they're working or not.

Correct me if I am wrong but I have not seen anyone discuss companies going bankrupt until you mentioned it. Was it by someone I have on ignore?

[DCHawk1]

But who cares, they're just assclowns anyway.

I agree 100%.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/42 ... rk-n952066

Mich simply cannot concede when he has taken the "L." It's one thing to joke about how a shutdown is what this country needs because government is too big (which I have done in this thread). It's something else altogether to insist that you're not joking and that your ideology necessitates that you enjoy people suffering to make a point.

That's the conservative dilemma these days. We had a choice between the Nice-ish but hopelessly ineffective establishment Republicans and the mean but (presumably) effective Trump-esque Republicans.

What we've ended up with, though, is meanness without effectiveness. Just plain spite.

[Deleted User 75]

Companies going bancrupt is pretty irrelevant to this entire convo. But we've got to turn it into outrage about Trump.

Odd that you're outraged over bancrupt real estate entities but not federal workers who aren't getting paid....

The real victims in this mess are the government workers who aren't being paid, whether they're working or not.

Correct me if I am wrong but I have not seen anyone discuss companies going bankrupt until you mentioned it. Was it by someone I have on ignore?

Wasn't bancruptcy frequently the cause of those contractors not being paid by trump related entities?


Regardless, I don't think it's fair that these people aren't being paid while they work. No amount of trump stories you provide me will change my mind that these federal workers being hurt in this fashion over a political dispute between the president and Congress is acceptable.

[twocoach]

Companies going bancrupt is pretty irrelevant to this entire convo. But we've got to turn it into outrage about Trump.

Odd that you're outraged over bancrupt real estate entities but not federal workers who aren't getting paid....

The real victims in this mess are the government workers who aren't being paid, whether they're working or not.

Correct me if I am wrong but I have not seen anyone discuss companies going bankrupt until you mentioned it. Was it by someone I have on ignore?

Wasn't bancruptcy frequently the cause of those contractors not being paid by trump related entities?


Regardless, I don't think it's fair that these people aren't being paid while they work. No amount of trump stories you provide me will change my mind that these federal workers being hurt in this fashion over a political dispute between the president and Congress is acceptable.

Good lord, Illy. I have made no attempt to say that it is acceptable. Your reading comprehension is simply terrible.

[Deleted User 75]

Good lord, Illy. I have made no attempt to say that it is acceptable. Your reading comprehension is simply terrible.

It's not dumb to ask people to accept the risks of their chosen profession and perform their job even in this situation.

[PhDhawk]

I agree 100%.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/42 ... rk-n952066

Mich simply cannot concede when he has taken the "L." It's one thing to joke about how a shutdown is what this country needs because government is too big (which I have done in this thread). It's something else altogether to insist that you're not joking and that your ideology necessitates that you enjoy people suffering to make a point.

That's the conservative dilemma these days. We had a choice between the Nice-ish but hopelessly ineffective establishment Republicans and the mean but (presumably) effective Trump-esque Republicans.

What we've ended up with, though, is meanness without effectiveness. Just plain spite.

arguing that gov't is too big is one thing.

Reveling in the fact that people don't get a paycheck is another.

Even the most libertarian person in the world would likely concede that there are some necessary federal jobs, and that the people doing those jobs probably ought to get paid for them.

I don't like Frontier Cable because I don't like their service. I would not celebrate that a Frontier Cable employee was not getting paid.

[twocoach]

Good lord, Illy. I have made no attempt to say that it is acceptable. Your reading comprehension is simply terrible.

It's not dumb to ask people to accept the risks of their chosen profession and perform their job even in this situation.

It is not dumb to expect them to do their important jobs. Our country needs them to even though it sucks they are being forced to.

And it is not acceptable that the President is doing this to them.

Two separate things.