Kenosha

[Deleted User 89]

Could the prosecution ask for a mistrial without prejudice? Is that a thing? Cuz that might be best. Just hit reset on the whole shitshow.

Cuz with prejudice means the state was basically picking on him, brought the charges not in good faith, and he can’t be tried again.

And it’s crazy how many people think that’s the most appropriate outcome.

thought i heard he couldn’t be recharged if there was a mistrial, regardless of which side calls for it

[ousdahl]

I think it depends on whether it’s “with prejudice”

[Cascadia]

If you need any more proof that this trial is a shit show, you're getting it today.

Prosecution can't use a zoom function, but the defense expert can use all sorts of doctored up and mashed together video's today.

[jfish26]

If you need any more proof that this trial is a shit show, you're getting it today.

Prosecution can't use a zoom function, but the defense expert can use all sorts of doctored up and mashed together video's today.

While there is no reason to be confident in this, and while I should absolutely not be regarded as an authority on this sort of thing, sometimes when the trial judge is incredibly one-sided, it's defense against an appeal.

[ousdahl]

What do you mean by “defense against an appeal?”

Like the defense is trying to do things to avoid an appeal?

Or that the prosecution may be better off letting the kangaroo court bounce around then appealing?

[Deleted User 89]

i think he means the deck is being stacked against the prosecution so that an appeal is less-likely, should they “win” in the face of adversity

maybe

[jfish26]

i think he means the deck is being stacked against the prosecution so that an appeal is less-likely, should they “win” in the face of adversity

maybe

Sort of, yes. The idea being that if the jury finds for the state, the defense doesn't have a lot to point to on appeal.

[ousdahl]

[Deleted User 89]

i think he means the deck is being stacked against the prosecution so that an appeal is less-likely, should they “win” in the face of adversity

maybe

Sort of, yes. The idea being that if the jury finds for the state, the defense doesn't have a lot to point to on appeal.

lol…way more concise than my attempt

[Cascadia]

Doctor Video put on hold. Now the defense calls cute white girl to the stand!

[Cascadia]

lol, cute white girl backfires. Basically allowed the prosecution to prove that Kyle could rerack the AR without ejecting a live round.

[ousdahl]

What’s the time frame between when Kyle shot the first guy in the dick, then subsequently shot him in the back?

It’s prob a quick thing

But if there’s any time at all to stop and reassess, that could negate a self-defense claim and make it murder, right?

I mean how is it self defense if you’re shooting a guy in the back as he’s doubled over facing away from you

[Cascadia]

I’m no expert, but I thought the prosecutor essentially proved that Kyle deliberately slowed down in order to turn and shoot the first guy. Also did a good job of showing that the victim raised his hands before Kyle shot and that Kyle could have stopped after 1 shot but continued to shoot him 3 more times.

[ousdahl]

Ah.

Yeah, who knows what the jurors think.

There’s prob at least one Dirty Harry who gets all boned up about that “make my day” fetish

[Cascadia]

lol, reporter dude getting caught using doctored video

[ousdahl]

Has there been any sympathy for the guy with the gun who Kyle shot in the arm?

Don’t think that guy’s been afforded the “have a right to defend myself” treatment one bit, despite the parallels

Both had a gun they weren’t supposed to have, going to a tense area with it, almost as if they were seeking out a confrontation rather than avoiding one

Perhaps the biggest difference is, that guy was trying to neutralize an active shooter, rather than trying to neutralize a guy with a shopping bag

[ousdahl]

More sparring between judge and prosecutor

[ousdahl]

meanwhile, in Goergia, lulz

[Overlander]

The kid is going to walk...these 2 idiots are going to walk.

They will be the stars of the show at the RNC Convention.

[ousdahl]

The Goergia good ol boys have a tougher row to hoe, (and also some federal hate crime charges too?), but yea you’re prob right

It prob helps that in two racially charged trials, neither has more than one token black person on the jury.

And I still fail to understand how one of the charges Kyle faces is an unlawful weapons charge, but that same unlawful weapon that is the subject of that charge, is also the weapon he’s arguing lawful self-defense with.