Kenosha

[Mjl]

Lol.

It is pretty alarming how quickly this kid’s shit has been normalized.

There’s also a clip floating around of conservative media crying, “he wuz just tryna protect his community!” When in reality he wasn’t even from the same state.

You gotta figure if there’s future unrest the local gummint will issue some specific “please don’t go out there and play cops and robbers,” and the prosecutors might even remember to submit the directive as evidence

I don't disagree with the overall thought that this was not self defense...

But you keep bringing up out of state. While there may be some legal technicalities around that, that's not the context you're using it in. Antioch and Kenosha are both far-north suburbs of Chicago. It's not like he went 200 miles away to do this.

[ousdahl]

Yeah, it’s not.

But it’s also not like there were protestors throwing bags at him on his front porch

Kyle would have saved himself and others an awful lot of trouble if he had just kept his pimply underage ass in Antioch that night.

[Mjl]

Yeah, it’s not.

But it’s also not like there were protestors throwing bags at him on his front porch

Kyle would have saved himself and others an awful lot of trouble if he had just kept his pimply underage ass in Antioch that night.

Right, but he has the right to counter-protest, and I would argue that he's close enough to Kenosha to consider that his community.

But when you bring a big ass gun to that protest, and someone tries to take it away from you, you sure as hell shouldn't have a right to shoot that person.

[ousdahl]

Of course he has a right to counter-protest.

But he also has an expectation to do so lawfully.

When he’s out past a curfew about it, that’s no longer lawful.

And when he brings a gun he’s not allowed to have, that’s not lawful either.

Those laws are laws precisely to avoid something stupid like this from happening.

Stop normalizing kids playing with machine guns.

[ousdahl]

And isn’t there some question of fact whether the guy was trying to take the gun away from him?

How are you so sure he didn’t grab the gun to try and point it away from him?

And once he’s doubled over facing away with a gunshot wound to the balls, is he really still such a threat to warrant more shots to the back?

Either way, the kid went somewhere he wasn’t supposed to be, with a gun he wasn’t supposed to have.

[ousdahl]

Thought experiment!

Imagine all this shit went down, but instead it was a black kid who shot up a maga rally then tried to claim self-defense.

The trial would be little more than a formality, if he even lived long enough to get his day in court.

[Deleted User 89]

wait, so now kyle was there counter-protesting?

[ousdahl]

That’s a good point.

Does Kyle allege as much?

Or does he stick to the narrative he was there playing pretend paramedic, in addition to his pretend cop duties?

[ousdahl]

Here’s a question:

If you saw some underage kid with an assault rifle running around your neighborhood, would it make you feel more safe or less safe?

Would it make a difference if he told you his intentions are good?

[Mjl]

Of course he has a right to counter-protest.

But he also has an expectation to do so lawfully.

When he’s out past a curfew about it, that’s no longer lawful.

And when he brings a gun he’s not allowed to have, that’s not lawful either.

Those laws are laws precisely to avoid something stupid like this from happening.

Stop normalizing kids playing with machine guns.

Was this a response to my post? If so I think you missed what I said...

[Mjl]

Here’s a question:

If you saw some underage kid with an assault rifle running around your neighborhood, would it make you feel more safe or less safe?

Would it make a difference if he told you his intentions are good?

I think you're getting caught up in minutiae here. Of course he shouldn't have been running around with a gun there at that time. But protestors on the other side had guns too. Yes, bad on both sides.

But Kyle actually used his against someone. Very very very bad.

[ousdahl]

You’re trying to say Antioch is close enough to Kenosha to count as his community?

They’re about 20 miles apart, about a half hour drive.

So let’s corroborate this then. What connections did Kyle have to Kenosha? Did he have fam or friends or business? How often did he go there? Did he bring an assault rifle every time?

Or was he going for no other reason than there was shit going down?

[Cascadia]

Both sides do it!

[Mjl]

Both sides do it!

So pathetic. Don't even know how to comprehend basic English. I tried to dumb it down, but you again prove nothing can be dumbed down enough for you.

[Mjl]

You’re trying to say Antioch is close enough to Kenosha to count as his community?

They’re about 20 miles apart, about a half hour drive.

So let’s corroborate this then. What connections did Kyle have to Kenosha? Did he have fam or friends or business? How often did he go there? Did he bring an assault rifle every time?

Or was he going for no other reason than there was shit going down?

Why does it matter? Your argument just enables bothsiderism since both sides had people do what you're describing.

The difference is Kyle murdered people.

[ousdahl]

Huh?

I wonder if anyone would have picked on Kyle if he didn’t bring a gun.

Just bring some bandaids and administer first aid and leave it at that.

If you’re going somewhere so volatile you think you need a military style weapon to be safe there, you shouldn’t be going in the first place.

And if you know others might have guns too, even more reason to just not fucking go.

Let’s stop acting like the problem is every little thing besides a kid playing with a gun somewhere he should have never gone.

[ousdahl]

You’re trying to say Antioch is close enough to Kenosha to count as his community?

They’re about 20 miles apart, about a half hour drive.

So let’s corroborate this then. What connections did Kyle have to Kenosha? Did he have fam or friends or business? How often did he go there? Did he bring an assault rifle every time?

Or was he going for no other reason than there was shit going down?

Why does it matter? Your argument just enables bothsiderism since both sides had people do what you're describing.

The difference is Kyle murdered people.

I’m not sure I follow.

You’re the one who insinuated he really was just protecting his own community cuz it’s not like he went 200 miles about it.

[Mjl]

Huh?

I wonder if anyone would have picked on Kyle if he didn’t bring a gun.

Just bring some bandaids and administer first aid and leave it at that.

If you’re going somewhere so volatile you think you need a military style weapon to be safe there, you shouldn’t be going in the first place.

And if you know others might have guns too, even more reason to just not fucking go.

Let’s stop acting like the problem is every little thing besides a kid playing with a gun somewhere he should have never gone.

So you're not upset that Kyle killed people, you're upset he brought a gun.

Why aren't you up in arms about everyone else who brought a gun there?

[Mjl]

You’re trying to say Antioch is close enough to Kenosha to count as his community?

They’re about 20 miles apart, about a half hour drive.

So let’s corroborate this then. What connections did Kyle have to Kenosha? Did he have fam or friends or business? How often did he go there? Did he bring an assault rifle every time?

Or was he going for no other reason than there was shit going down?

Why does it matter? Your argument just enables bothsiderism since both sides had people do what you're describing.

The difference is Kyle murdered people.

I’m not sure I follow.

You’re the one who insinuated he really was just protecting his own community cuz it’s not like he went 200 miles about it.

I'm saying far north suburbs of Chicago could be considered one community, yes. And that arguing over that kind of minutiae misses the point.

[Cascadia]

Not surprised that Mjl is on Team Kyle