War crimes

[ousdahl]

Yeah.

In a just world, a strong case can be made for presidents 43-46 all being war criminals.

[ousdahl]

They sure will be, at the very least the ones carried out under Obama and Biden administrations.

I don’t think you meant to suggest it, but perhaps “pro-life” was never about being pro-life so much as it is just a buncha partisan nonsense all along.

[Deleted User 863]

They sure will be, at the very least the ones carried out under Obama and Biden administrations.

I don’t think you meant to suggest it, but perhaps “pro-life” was never about being pro-life so much as it is just a buncha partisan nonsense all along.

Anti abortion seems different than anti drone striking children imo.

[Cascadia]

They sure will be, at the very least the ones carried out under Obama and Biden administrations.

I don’t think you meant to suggest it, but perhaps “pro-life” was never about being pro-life so much as it is just a buncha partisan nonsense all along.

Anti abortion seems different than anti drone striking children imo.

I have to give you some credit. At least you recognize that the "pro-life" people really are just anti-abortion. They don't give a fuck about life.

[Deleted User 863]

I don’t think you meant to suggest it, but perhaps “pro-life” was never about being pro-life so much as it is just a buncha partisan nonsense all along.

Anti abortion seems different than anti drone striking children imo.

I have to give you some credit. At least you recognize that the "pro-life" people really are just anti-abortion. They don't give a fuck about life.

Absolutely.

And many just anti abortion by poor people.

[ProudBoy]

The analysis only covered 2014-2018.

[ousdahl]

Anti abortion seems different than anti drone striking children imo.

I have to give you some credit. At least you recognize that the "pro-life" people really are just anti-abortion. They don't give a fuck about life.

Absolutely.

And many just anti abortion by poor people.

Whoa whoa whoa

Do you mean to suggest the issue of abortion has…gasp…economic implications?!??!!

GET YER PITCHFORKS YOU GUYS!!!

[Deleted User 863]

Calm down Qusdahl.

[ousdahl]

Qusdahl got an awful lot of shit when he first suggested that.

And by he, I mean, they, cuz fuckin leftists and their fuckin pronouns amirite?

[Deleted User 863]

Qusdahl got an awful lot of shit when he first suggested that.

That's not what you suggested.

[ousdahl]

what did I suggest?

Something about a hippie chick?

[PhDhawk]

Fail

[TDub]

what did I suggest?

Something about a hippie chick?

do we have to go over this again?

[ousdahl]

I dunno. Ask illy.

This time round he’s the one to bring up abortion and classism.

[TDub]

youre too high for this.


stop posting here and enjoy your night out in boulder.

[Wiff]

Bump?

[Qusdahl]

Read the room bro.

some good faith inquiry into war crimes is the LAST thing Merica wants on their plate! Especially right now!


Oh wait, did you mean Putin?

Cuz that guy’s sounding more and more like a war criminal every day.

[Mjl]

W was a war criminal as well.

Only bringing that up when someone else is being a war criminal, i.e. "whataboutism", is defending the current war criminal. The fact we keep telling you that and you keep doing it indicates, contrary to your words, that that is your intent.

Again, saying a bunch of racist things and bookending it with "I am not a racist" doesn't make you not racist.

[Qusdahl]

I don't intend whataboutism, but let's run with it. You seem to think I seem to think I'm pointing to one party's actions to justify or normalize or excuse another's? Cuz that's the opposite of what I intend. I'm saying NEITHER Putin's NOR W's war crimes are excusable.

perhaps, even, something to the effect of...it would be easier for me to take our country's condemnations of Putin's war crimes more seriously, if we took condemning our own country's war crimes more seriously too?

Or rather, how much good does it do to condemn Putin’s war crimes, but not W’s?

not that I don't take war crimes seriously!

I guess I'm trying to think of it in some...bigger world view? As freaked out as we are about Russia invading Ukraine right now, isn't that the same way many other folks in many other countries feel when they see us invade Iraq et al?

Is that really bothsidesing it, or just bringing some broader perspective - one that perhaps makes you uncomfortable, so you'd rather dismiss it as bothsidesing?

We're less than a year removed from our own war of foreign invasion, and here we are, once again, dumping all this "lethal aid" into a place most Americans can't even find on a map.

[Qusdahl]

And if I may sincerely ask cuz I don’t understand:

Could someone please explain to me what exactly W rejected on May 6, 2002?